Those won't fit in my ski box!our press only goes to 196cm. but maybe we'll expand it
Those won't fit in my ski box!our press only goes to 196cm. but maybe we'll expand it
I think I'd find a way. Cut the end out, attach a duffel and extend that box!Those won't fit in my ski box!
Lay down the backseat and put one of the kids in the ski box?I think I'd find a way. Cut the end out, attach a duffel and extend that box!
That works too.Lay down the backseat and put one of the kids in the ski box?
And......? Good, bad, indifferent?Just raced the Citadels in ‘big boy’ GS
Just raced the Citadels in ‘big boy’ GS
Cyrus,
Please weigh in (pun intended) on the "real" weight of your new ski. I saw your post of 1900 ish grams per ski, but that contradicts Brian Finch's (exotic skis post?) measured weight of 1725 ish grams per ski. I don't mean to be a weight weenie here, but to me that is the difference between a ski i would use 50/50 and a ski I would use only as an alpine ski. Please explain what is going on with the weight info?
After checking I am confusing Brian Finch with Eric E. from exotic skis, but my question still stands. And to be a bit blunt, your emails on the Citadel claim it is your lightest ski in the family?
So @Brian Finch , I have to ask, how does the WhiteDot Ranger CarbonLite 108 compare to the V-Werks Katana, my own standard for evaluating a fatter carbon ski, if you or someone else happens to have been on both skis?
To me this fits the thread because we have to compare the Citadel to the best we know, and for me it will be, "How does this Citadel compare to the 184 & 191 Volkl V-Werks Katana 112?" (Just as for others the new DPS Alchemist Wailer 106 might be the standard.)
It sounds like those WhiteDot Carbonlites should be in the mix for others also.
Note that the idiot author of that thread later realized that much of his impressions of the 184 98's were due to them being too long for him. See post #17 in that thread.Given the engineering thread regarding how the HDT reacts to truly hard snow, I'm very curious to see what the Citadel does there.
Did the author do this?Note that the idiot author of that thread later realized that much of his impressions of the 184 98's were due to them being too long for him.
He most certainly did. He still hasn't had the chance to try his 178s on those bulletproof groomers, but now sees no reason to expect them to feel totally unbendable in those conditions.Did the author do this?
Yeah, he's been doing that.
I know it's going off-topic but that's a whole other subject - best engineering doesn't always win out in consumer markets. At the moment Renoun are very small fish in the pond even if their fans are very nerdy and seriously invested in skiing. Before he is actually a threat to big boys there is the whole nightmare of retail distribution, internationalisation etc to navigate. Alternately taking $20 royalty off every pair of skis manufactured in the world might be attractive or dozens of other permutations.
correct - we're not looking to make the lightest ski out there (we clearly are already got smoked by DPS) but that's OK with us. We wanted to make a ski that's light(ish) that you can still ski hard on the way down. Slap some SHIFTS on these badboys and.....
Conversely, we've seen terrible products that sell well. It's a fine line.Yea, making skis and SELLING skis are two way different things. You can be great at the first one but that does not guarantee success in the second one. We have all seen great products not sell well and fade out unfortunately.
I have been working for 15 years in the industry of selling things so I have seen it all, well, almost.
Citadel > WD > VWerks > Alchemist in terms of lively feel