Trying to get this in now, in case the thread is closed. There are three kinds.Religious zeal is characterized by five things.
1. absolute certainty about the truth
.....that the truth is already revealed and that it is important to know this truth
2. a specific document(s) reveals this truth
.....therefore the truth is available to anyone who will avail themselves of the document(s)
.....the document(s) proclaims that it contains the absolute truth, and all of it
.....the document(s) usually is generated by one person who finds the truth and wants to deliver it to others
.....truth-knowers learn to understand and apply the truth from teachers who teach the truth as revealed in the document(s).
3. us vs them mentality
.....the truth-knowers know and recognize each other; they may have an organization and a name
.....they stick together, and often protect themselves from contamination by outsiders by staying away from those who don't know the truth
.....they know and recognize the non-truth-knowers as outsiders, sometimes even as the enemy
.....truth-knowers often work to convert non-truth-knowers, but they must be careful to not fall under their influence as they make contact
4. all-or-nothing commitment to the truth as revealed
.....to be a member of the truth-knowers, one needs to commit to and affirm all that is in the truth-revealing document(s)
.....no questioning of details or exceptions is allowed; one cannot pick and choose what to affirm
5. dire consequences for those who do not know and cling to the truth
.....these consequences apply to those who have never known the truth
.....they apply to those who have encountered the truth but choose to question the absoluteness or the completeness of the truth as revealed in the document(s) and taught by the truth-knowers
.....these dire consequences also apply to those who once affirmed it all but choose to leave the fold
I came up with this list from a book on Christian fundamentalism that I was reading a few years back. I happened to be reading this book when I took a certain week-long ski camp at A-Basin and encountered the religious zeal expressed by participants and promoted by its leader. It appeared to me that the fundamentalists in the book and the campers at A-Basin were acting alike. So I paraphrased what I was reading in the book in more general terms to see if it applied to the people at the camp.
It did.
It doesn't have to be an argument of what is right and wrong. It can simply be a sharing of points of view. A lot of "IMO's", without disagreeing with another's IMO.The argument
Yup. Trying to explain to someone that one see's things a different way, and explain why, is quite different than saying another is wrong. Thinking about this a little more, it's more than just getting (falling?) into right and wrongs. I think 'teaching' is best avoided. Answering a question, sure! I have greatly benefited from answers I have gotten here. Teaching is very different. I pay for a course, or I register for a webinar, and I open myself up to teaching. The information is given to me 'unsolicited', solicited only to the point that I chose to attend the class. At some point, and I am not sure where, perhaps Geepers and Razie should have gone private in their discussion. Anyway, I think it's good to explore this and determine preventative actions that each of us can take. (Our company is down for a Quality Systems day. I've got my Quality and Continuous Improvement hat on.)Agree. My objections as many here know are always about “right and wrong“ approaches.
LOL,Religious zeal is characterized by five things.
1. absolute certainty about the truth
.....that the truth has been revealed, and that it is important to know this truth
2. a specific document(s) reveals this truth
.....the truth is available to anyone who will avail themselves of the document(s)
.....the document(s) proclaims that it contains the absolute truth, and all of it
.....the document(s) usually is generated by one person who finds the truth and wants to deliver it to others
.....truth-knowers learn to understand and apply the truth from teachers who teach the truth as revealed in the document(s).
3. us vs them mentality
.....the truth-knowers know and recognize each other; they may have an organization and a name
.....they stick together, and often protect themselves from contamination by outsiders by staying away from those who don't know the truth
.....they know and recognize the non-truth-knowers as outsiders, sometimes even as the enemy
.....truth-knowers often work to convert non-truth-knowers, but they must be careful to not fall under their influence as they make contact
4. all-or-nothing commitment to the truth as revealed
.....to be a member of the truth-knowers, one needs to commit to and affirm all that is in the truth-revealing document(s)
.....no questioning of details or exceptions is allowed; one cannot pick and choose what to affirm
5. dire consequences for those who do not know and cling to the truth
.....dire consequences come to those who have never known the truth
.....dire consequences come to those who have encountered the truth but choose to question the absoluteness or the completeness of the truth as revealed in the document(s) and taught by the truth-knowers
.....these dire consequences also come to those who once affirmed the truth but choose to leave the fold
I came up with this list from a book on Christian fundamentalism that I was reading a few years back. I happened to be reading this book when I took a certain week-long ski camp at A-Basin and encountered serious "religious zeal" expressed by participants and promoted by its leader. It appeared to me that the fundamentalists in the book and the campers at A-Basin were acting alike. So I paraphrased what I was reading in the book in more general terms to see if it applied to the people at the camp.
It did.
heel.Question. Do you feel it is easier to rotate the femurs with pressure on the heels or ball of the foot?
Question. Do you feel it is easier to rotate the femurs with pressure on the heels or ball of the foot?
If knees are bent, not much difference.Question. Do you feel it is easier to rotate the femurs with pressure on the heels or ball of the foot?
I tend to rotate the skis in a flat 360º spin both ways. To point skis uphill, I rotate from the tips, with tails moving across the snow. To point them downhill, I rotate from the tails, with tips moving across the snow.Question. Do you feel it is easier to rotate the femurs with pressure on the heels or ball of the foot?
But rotating the skis is not Loki's question. He's asking about rotating the femurs. My answer: It doesn't matter how the skis are weighted. Rotating the femurs does not imply that the skis are being rotated. It means that separation is happening at the head of the femur/hip socket.