Another frivolous poll while waiting for snow: Star Wars or Star Trek?

[dbostedo]

It's really too bad they cancelled Crusade.

For anyone missing TNG-era Star Trek, I'd definitely recommend taking a look at The Orville. You'll have to give it a little while to hit its stride, but as long as you're not put off by the humor, it's quite true to most of what I find made The Next Generation great.

I was keeping up with The Orville until they moved it to Hulu... then I quit watching it.

 

[cantunamunch]

Dark Matter kinda lost me in the third season - alts and alt-realities always wind up railroading the plot - are you watching the Expanse?

 

[Marker]

The Expanse!

 

[Unpiste]

Dark Matter kinda lost me in the third season - alts and alt-realities always wind up railroading the plot - are you watching the Expanse?

Dark Matter did get a little weird, but in exactly the kind of slightly campy sci-fi way I like. I was definitely disappointed to see it cancelled.

The Expanse is one I would recommend to nearly anyone. I was quite annoyed at SyFy for cancelling it and I’m eagerly awaiting season 4 on Amazon. Seasons 1–3 are easily some of the best modern TV.

 

[cantunamunch]

The Expanse is one I would recommend to nearly anyone. I was quite annoyed at SyFy for cancelling it and I’m eagerly awaiting season 4 on Amazon. Seasons 1–3 are easily some of the best modern TV.

I know, right? Take a bunch of The Wire writers, feed them a steady diet of Larry Niven, and keep them sequestered on a Bab 5 set...

They've even escaped 'Canadian Negotiating Syndrome' where supposed tough guys and mercenaries repeat collectivist verbiage over and over. (You'll even find it Dark Matter by the third episode).

 

[CS2-6]

Star Trek is excellent science fiction. Star Wars is excellent science fantasy. A well-rounded individual should strive to neglect neither in their education.

 

[T-Square]

Sanctuary. Great work by Amanda Tapping.

 

[Laurel Hill Crazie]

Lost

 

[chilehed]

Hitchhiker's Guide

 

[LiquidFeet]

@Tricia, thank you for this thread.
Battlestar Galactica, the second one, until they find Earth.
It goes sideways after that.

 

[Tricia]

Where's the snow dammit.

 

[P-Ute]

Where's the snow dammit.

Patience you must have, my young padawan

 

[Bad Bob]

Use The Force. How can you not love that?

A great western set in a galaxy far far away.

 

[T-Square]

Hitchhiker's Guide

I love the trilogy of five books and one short story.

 

[T-Square]

Where's the snow dammit.

@Philpug, you may have to get her these.


You can get them here. https://grasskiusa.com/

Make she has knee and elbow protectors. Helmet, maybe.

 

[LiquidFeet]

^^ That's a very short course. I wonder if they were wearing spine protectors. Fun to watch.

 

[cantunamunch]

Battlestar Galactica, the second one, until they find Earth.
It goes sideways after that.

I suspect you mean the third one - they did find Earth in Battlestar Galactica 1980 but it was sideways from the very beginning; even the most diehard BG fans had massive problems with that one.

 

[LiquidFeet]

I loved this one and binge-watched it. When they finally found earth, wow what an episode that was.

In the follow-up episodes I sensed that the writers were under pressure to keep people watching no matter how convoluted and unfixable the subplots. There were too many obvious up-front holes in the story as it continued to develop and no one bothered to plug them. The ending episode... a new low in TV writing .

Cool Last Supper parody below.

 

[cantunamunch]

In the follow-up episodes I sensed that the writers were under pressure to keep people watching no matter how convoluted and unfixable the subplots.

Yep, this is the 'railroading' in gamer parlance that I reference above: where the characters have zero ability to tweak their own fate no matter what their growth arcs and the dungeon master runs the plot like on rails - into whatever Doom Scenario Of The Week he/she chooses. And so the players generally make the irony the game - by deliberately getting into unfixable side-quest messes.

There were too many obvious up-front holes in the story as it continued to develop and no one bothered to plug them. The ending episode... a new low in TV writing .

This is the chronic danger of plot-driven series. There's a wonderful explanation of the massive conflict that arose when the writers of TNG realised they had to break away from plot-driven into character-driven writing or they would quickly write the series into the same pit:
Chaos on the Bridge

If they hadn't won that conflict, TNG would have spun out, DS9 Voyager and Enterprise would never have happened.

 

[ksampson3]

Neither. For god's sake, neither.