Maybe they plan on using BMX for Bike Hauling up to mid mtn. The first climb is punishing right out of the lot.I get winded sometimes walking from the parking lot to the lodge at A-Basin...I could not image mountain biking there. I am sure for the folks that live at 10K it isn't as much of an issue, but coming even comimg from 5K...I get heavily winded.
Moving to Mountain Biking forum.
Not just for the mountain biking but the via ferrata on the East Wall. While there will be some that are willing to hike up then do the via ferrata, I think to make the cost make sense on both sides they'll need lift service so they customer hikes down to the access.100% Abasin will be using at least one, and probably 2 chairs to shuttle people up the mountain. Else hard to justify fiscally.
Denverites will be pretty stoked on this for day tripping I expect.
Please explain how this reduces access to public lands?Next step's are gold panning in the creek, laser light night skiing, and Chipotle at mid mountain! Don't know about y'all but I am super pumped they are reducing access to our public lands more. I wonder if the USFS raised their lease rates after VR successfully lobbied them for summer activities back in 2014 or whenever it was?
Not a bad idea but they'll never be able to touch Arkansas for prospecting tourism.Next step's are gold panning in the creek
... and quite frankly I doubt requiring a guide is going to be a stumbling block to anyone genuinely interested.. I imagine it is a reality of American legal and insurance systems.
Not true at all. In Europe, you have all kinds of people going, including serious climbers, it's just fun.... and quite frankly I doubt requiring a guide is going to be a stumbling block to anyone genuinely interested.
As you already pointed out, no real climbers or mountaineers, i.e. no one with experience to make an informed judgment on gear and safety, are remotely interested in these routes. Adventure tourists find guided tours comforting and the proof is punters pay through the nose for guided raft trips and tandem skydives, and just about every excursion off a cruise boat ever.
Given the combination (people who know what they're doing provably not interested and demonstrable existence of tourists who like the oxymoron of a safe adventure) they'd be nuts to not require guides.
I bet they will use BMX or a shuttle up the service road - question is are all the trails below BMX since that’s not much vert?Maybe they plan on using BMX for Bike Hauling up to mid mtn. The first climb is punishing right out of the lot.
hummm.... got me thinking of the Pivot Shuttle