Noel Coward. Cleverest lyricist, beautiful tunes.
it eventually grows on me.
Stravinsky and Jazz are so interrelated ...
Frank Zappa. Dr Dre
Right?what genius it must take to compose an orchestral piece for ~50 instruments
Listened to music all my life but only relatively late in life did I try to learn an instrument (guitar). While I struggle to understand simple melody and chord changes, it really blows my mind to realize what genius it must take to compose an orchestral piece for ~50 instruments! Definitely a lot more going on than pop music.
I disagree, let's leave it at that please and thank you.The great composers of "classical" music were able to infuse their music with both the intellectual and the emotional side of the human experience at the same time. A great example is the second movement of Beethoven's 7th symphony. Its beautiful, slow, evocative melody has a real "hook" that you can hear in your head all day long, but if you listen deeper into the music you'll find that it seethes with underlying melodies and harmonies running along under the overlay of the main theme. You could spend weeks hearing everything in it.
Modern composers have it a lot tougher. People have been at composition for a long time and to come up with something that isn't a retread is hard. Also, there aren't the moneyed classes willing to pay for intellectually stimulating music today that there were pre-20th century, and in our more democratic world, the common folk pay the piper. So the great composers of today tend to compose for film, TV, and pop recordings. Economically there just isn't the demand for intellectual music anymore.
Hard to argue with that.I disagree, let's leave it at that please and thank you.
So do "great" (subjective), contemporary composers.The great composers of "classical" music were able to infuse their music with both the intellectual and the emotional side of the human experience at the same time. A great example is the second movement of Beethoven's 7th symphony. Its beautiful, slow, evocative melody has a real "hook" that you can hear in your head all day long, but if you listen deeper into the music you'll find that it seethes with underlying melodies and harmonies running along under the overlay of the main theme. You could spend weeks hearing everything in it.
From an academic point of view there was a tremendous amount of bad classical music composed pre-20th century which you and I will likely never hear.Modern composers have it a lot tougher. People have been at composition for a long time and to come up with something that isn't a retread is hard. Also, there aren't the moneyed classes willing to pay for intellectually stimulating music today that there were pre-20th century, and in our more democratic world, the common folk pay the piper. So the great composers of today tend to compose for film, TV, and pop recordings. Economically there just isn't the demand for intellectual music anymore.
I find nothing to dispute in your comments. I'm not sure why you were moved to say you disagree with mine. It's tough to make a multifaceted response in something less than a tome. My intended point was that the cultures and economic forces of the past and present created different musical "markets." These markets define the type of music that professionals make, both good and bad.So do "great" (subjective), contemporary composers.
From an academic point of view there was a tremendous amount of bad classical music composed pre-20th century which you and I will likely never hear.
Categorizing any genera of music, not just and including pre-20th century classical as being "intellectual music" in itself is open to interpretation as to what is or is not intellectual in nature.
And then there’s mastery of the craft along with a sense of humor.
Nah, he’s just weird.You mean like