Vehicle dilemma

[tch]

Truck = perceived blue collar
Euro sports car = perceived "money to burn"

This.
Plus this:

If you drive an expensive car you're probably a jerk, scientists say | CNN

The science is looking pretty unanimous on this one: Drivers of expensive cars are the worst.

www.cnn.com

 

[Tom K.]

@djetok, ticking to what you actually asked about.......I'd choose the Macan out of those on your list.

But, if you want to avoid a bit of "badge envy" consider the Audi SQ5.

Damn near identical cars. Significantly cheaper upkeep on the Audi, and its utility is less compromised than the Macan (more upright rear window, etc.).

You really DON'T want to pay for the 80,000 mile Macan service.

 

[djetok]

@djetok, ticking to what you actually asked about.......I'd choose the Macan out of those on your list.

But, if you want to avoid a bit of "badge envy" consider the Audi SQ5.

Damn near identical cars. Significantly cheaper upkeep on the Audi, and its utility is less compromised than the Macan (more upright rear window, etc.).

You really DON'T want to pay for the 80,000 mile Macan service.

Thank you for the constructive comments.

 

[RiderRay]

Good luck in your choice and to the new driver.

 

[Philpug]

@ScotsSkier has a Macan in his stable. maybe he can check in.

 

[ScotsSkier]

@djetok, ticking to what you actually asked about.......I'd choose the Macan out of those on your list.

But, if you want to avoid a bit of "badge envy" consider the Audi SQ5.

Damn near identical cars. Significantly cheaper upkeep on the Audi, and its utility is less compromised than the Macan (more upright rear window, etc.).

You really DON'T want to pay for the 80,000 mile Macan service.

Sorry, but while the basic platform may be the same , there is abolutely no comparison in the driving experience and dynamics. The Macan is light years ahead of the Audi. Terrific driving machine, my wife had the Macan Turbo (since replaced with an X5M). The only issue is that it gets difficult to find enough clear road where you can get it anywhere near pushing it, it drives basically on rails. And I think it would be quite tight to get a 6 foot step ladder in it - it is not the most spacious interior, the Audi would definitely have an advantage there

 

[djetok]

Problem solved. Buying a 2020 f150 roush nitemare

 

[Philpug]

Problem solved. Buying a 2020 f150 roush nitemare

Hmmmm...

https://www.roushperformance.com/vehicles/2020-roush-f-150-nitemare.html

Seems a little too warm and fuzzy.

 

[djetok]

Being a buyer of f150s. I got 5k loyalty in addition to other rebates


Oh yeah and it will put a freaking smile ear to ear.

 

[fatbob]

Plus this:

If you drive an expensive car you're probably a jerk, scientists say | CNN

The science is looking pretty unanimous on this one: Drivers of expensive cars are the worst.

www.cnn.com

Audi actually did a fairly memorable ad on that point at the peak of City Boy conspicuous consumption

About the closest they could get to a "knock ad" on BMW at the time.


The ultimate irony being that Audi then became exactly the brand for that sort of customer

 

[Tom K.]

Problem solved. Buying a 2020 f150 roush nitemare

American V8 FTW!!!

A good friend's wife has a Roush. Not sure of the model name. It's a blast, but it is NOT quiet!

She bought it in Moab, where IIRC, the dealer claimed that they were the #1 Roush pickup dealer?!

Seemed unlikely, but they did have 3 or 4 on the lot.

 

[djetok]

American V8 FTW!!!

A good friend's wife has a Roush. Not sure of the model name. It's a blast, but it is NOT quiet!

She bought it in Moab, where IIRC, the dealer claimed that they were the #1 Roush pickup dealer?!

Seemed unlikely, but they did have 3 or 4 on the lot.

it will set you back in the seat that is for sure. It is loud , louder and loudest with adaptable exhaust. They basically have two pipes off the muffler with a cutoff valve that you can change pipes or adjust the sound with the app on your phone.

 

[djetok]

Sorry, but while the basic platform may be the same , there is abolutely no comparison in the driving experience and dynamics. The Macan is light years ahead of the Audi. Terrific driving machine, my wife had the Macan Turbo (since replaced with an X5M). The only issue is that it gets difficult to find enough clear road where you can get it anywhere near pushing it, it drives basically on rails. And I think it would be quite tight to get a 6 foot step ladder in it - it is not the most spacious interior, the Audi would definitely have an advantage there

well the ladder did not fit safely, you were absolutely right. Thanks for the insight.

 

[François Pugh]

If you can afford the cars mentioned in this thread you can afford to go retro with a crate engine for performance AND keep these on the road:

They don't handle the best (even with good tires); the truck is too light in the rear and the wagon is too heavy and has too much built in understeer). However, everybody needs a challenge.

 

[tball]

She bought it in Moab, where IIRC, the dealer claimed that they were the #1 Roush pickup dealer?!

Seemed unlikely, but they did have 3 or 4 on the lot.

Moab makes sense for Roush as they have several kick butt off-road models. Very çool getting modded vehicles from a dealer with a warranty.

 

[ScotsSkier]

American V8 FTW!!!

A good friend's wife has a Roush. Not sure of the model name. It's a blast, but it is NOT quiet!

She bought it in Moab, where IIRC, the dealer claimed that they were the #1 Roush pickup dealer?!

Seemed unlikely, but they did have 3 or 4 on the lot.

it will set you back in the seat that is for sure. It is loud , louder and loudest with adaptable exhaust. They basically have two pipes off the muffler with a cutoff valve that you can change pipes or adjust the sound with the app on your phone.

Its funny how your requirements tend to change a bit over time. I have had a pretty wide range of performance vehicles over th last 40+ years - quattros, STIs, 911, Macan Turbo, RS Fords, GTIs, GTEs, Boxster etc. Last year I was all set to swap my 16 F150 for a new F150 Raptor. Had a very good deal lined up and the dealer was just waiting for the OK to load it on the transporter for delivery. Just to confirm, i went for a test drive in one......well, WTF!.....it was rough and noisy...(and my dog hated it!). I would not have believed it! No way I would want to do 1000 miles - or even 500 - in a single shot like i could in my 16 (which was set up well with Bilsteins etc).. I was pretty crushed because I liked everything else about it but had to admit I could not live with it am I turning into an old fa**? But it just didn't work for me. And going from sublime to ridiculous I ended up getting a F150 Platinum diesel instead a few weeks later! A lot more usable for what i want, still reasonably quick and now with Bilsteins all round and a few other tweaks still fun to drive.

Looking at the Roush spec, nice to see that the suspension is lowered - that wa son of my concerns with the Raptor, all the performance suspension for it was for off-road. I couldn't find any options to lower it and optimize for pavement use .

Anyway, hope you enjoy OP!

 

[djetok]

I ended up going a different direction. I just did not want a truck. I have had a truck since I was 14 years old (49 now). I ended up with a BMW X2m35i . A 6 ft step ladder fit in it, also a little giant 18 ft reach fits as well. I loaded it up with both ladders and the equipment to do a pretty decent size misting job on Monday. It worked out well using it. We drove by it as we were test driving a x3m. I ended up giving 45k for a fully loaded out 55k stickered one. Now , I am personal truck less. I still have my work trucks if I need to move something. Its quick, it has the storage space and I can get 31 mpg on the highway.

 

[Tom K.]

Beauty!

But I do miss the inline 6 and rear drive platform of the oriiginal X1........

Times change.

 

[Alexzn]

Isn't the 2-series a FWD car?

 

[Alexzn]

Honda Ridgeline does not get any love here or anywhere...