That's how I saw it as well. Inside ski knocked the outside ski lose.
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That's how I saw it as well. Inside ski knocked the outside ski lose.
My strong hunch is that her skis ran slow, given how much snow was falling when she ran. Totally different than what they had planned for in terms of prep.
Could be that LV has a favorite pair of skis, for LL. She had run them for the training runs, and just feels invincible on them. So they are waxed and ready to go, anticipating overcast and no fresh snow.
Starts snowing, comes in fast and heavy. They have another pair prepped to better handle the snow...but not her favorite. What's the better choice?
Seemed to me that a few techs were blindsided by the snow coming in a half hour early.
Just a guess. Can't think of another reason, as I'd expect her to motor, as usual through the bottom.
I think she showed a lot of grit to race today, and did fine under the circumstances. That crash had to hurt. Imagine she is quite bruised, at the least.
Gutsy.
Or Stupid!
You don't get to where she is in racing history without decision making that walks that fine line of gutsy/stupid....
There also aren't make that take a crash and get airlifted off the hill and then turn around and race a few days later and win.....
There also aren't make that take a crash and get airlifted off the hill and then turn around and race a few days later and win.....
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There was a book written about the US downhill team in the 90's called "Right on the Edge of Crazy". The title is still the best summation of downhill. Or maybe being near to winning in downhill.
Well today Lindsey leaned in too far and lost the outside ski. DNF.
Seeing as she beat everyone through 3/4 of the downhill yesterday I wouldn't call her a mess. She does need to get back on track. Hopefully she's not injured from the crash into the fences. I have doubts.
The bottom of the course continued to give problems. The World Champion snowboarder Esther Lucek crashed into the fences right near where Lindsey went in. Someone else hooked a tip on the outside gate in that area. AJ Kitt remarked "that's something you don't see everyday"
Reminds me of Anja in Torino. Tough girls.
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Lindsey is having a hard time staying healthy
http://olympics.nbcsports.com/2017/12/09/lindsey-vonn-injury-st-moritz/?sf175827566=1
http://olympics.nbcsports.com/2017/12/09/lindsey-vonn-injury-st-moritz/?sf175827566=1
More of a thanks for posting ^^^^^. Not "liking" the news.
Think there is a bit of a spin on this. Shocker for NBC sports.
Best thing {perhaps the ONLY thing} she can do is not race tomorrow, NOT race next week, get whatever her issues are worked on, and return for ehe two back to back speed series in Mid January/
Fear that if she does not take the time, this may not go well. Just a hunch, having done a lot of "watching" over the years.
She is very driven, very stubborn. "Somebody" needs to step in and force her to sit it out, IMO.
If she keeps skiing hurt, we'll probably still see her start in Korea, with zero chance of a podium. You need to be able to pressure and work BOTH skis.
Discussing hip issues is probably getting old, but she took a HARD fall at LL.
Wishing her the best....becoming a tough season for US fans to watch. We need to keep the expectations in check. My expectations and the USSSA, NBC hype train are not so much aligned.
Think there is a bit of a spin on this. Shocker for NBC sports.
Best thing {perhaps the ONLY thing} she can do is not race tomorrow, NOT race next week, get whatever her issues are worked on, and return for ehe two back to back speed series in Mid January/
Fear that if she does not take the time, this may not go well. Just a hunch, having done a lot of "watching" over the years.
She is very driven, very stubborn. "Somebody" needs to step in and force her to sit it out, IMO.
If she keeps skiing hurt, we'll probably still see her start in Korea, with zero chance of a podium. You need to be able to pressure and work BOTH skis.
Discussing hip issues is probably getting old, but she took a HARD fall at LL.
Wishing her the best....becoming a tough season for US fans to watch. We need to keep the expectations in check. My expectations and the USSSA, NBC hype train are not so much aligned.
Yeah, I think overall the girls are more interesting, at least lately.
It's showing up in the kids' racing and development programs too. Numbers seem to be way in favor of the girls. I'll ask for rough stats from someone I know who is one of the lead coaches for our mountain, which has a pretty big program.
It's showing up in the kids' racing and development programs too. Numbers seem to be way in favor of the girls. I'll ask for rough stats from someone I know who is one of the lead coaches for our mountain, which has a pretty big program.
More girls racing now then before, but still seeing more boys than girls in the older ages (U16+). Lots of possible reasons for this.
Nice to see way more at the younger developmental ages however. Whether they end up continuing to pursue WC is irrelevant just more girls being exposed to the sport and developing a love of skiing is a great thing.
Hope the trend for increasing female participation continues into later years. Given that our race league rules require at least one 'girl' score per night, everyone tries hard to have at least 2 ladies on a team. If you are not already starting a team with at least two, it can be a challenge to find two adult ladies who have the race bug.
Instructor today told us he'd had a chance to ski the Hahnenkamm and how crazy it was. He also commented that back in the day, racers would finish in 12:something minutes; now it's 2:something.
If this is remotely true, it made me think of how much more dangerous downhill skiing has become. Depending on the specifics of the numbers, that's 5-6x as fast as it used to be.
(He also showed us a photo of Mikaela Shiffrin from a few years ago with lines drawn across shoulders, hips, and knees. All identical lines. Oh, so that's what they mean by stacked skiing. I'm going to go ahead and assert that none of us quite pulled it off, despite the visual aide.)
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Yeah, not true. First race on the Streif, the course used since 1937, was 3:53.10.
Many years they can't run the full course and some it's cancelled completely.
Note:
Kitzbuhel- the town
Hahnenkamm- the mountain
Streif - the course
Some records
Fritz Strobel, AUT, 1997, 1:51.58 - This time still stands as fastest on the full course.
Jean Claude Killy, FRA, 1967, 2:11.92
Buddy Werner, USA, 1959, 2:33.40
Thaus Schwabel, AUT, 1937, 3:53.10
https://hahnenkamm.com/en/things-to-know/hkr-course-records/
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Ski Magazine is finally catching up to the conversation we've been having for close to a year.
The Future of Ski Racing is Female.
The Future of Ski Racing is Female.
There once was an instructor from Jackson Hole
Who had some patterns he wished to extole
He would teach you to ski
As if you were taking a pee
No wonder the women had better control
Who had some patterns he wished to extole
He would teach you to ski
As if you were taking a pee
No wonder the women had better control
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Who would you rather watch:
Lindsey Vonn
or
Ted Ligety?
Mikaela Shiffrin
or
Travis Ganong?
Yeah, I thought so
I find male ski racers more interesting to watch than female ski racers. Males are bigger, faster, better. Watching female ski racing bores me like watching female tennis bores me. Golf.
The US women' Soccer team played Japan recently.
I didn't try to watch the entire game, There were other games to watch. but the US gals were ahead! ;-)