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My wife occasionally gets nauseous while skiing, very much like motion sickness. It’s not altitude related since we live in the Denver area and stay in the mountains frequently at around 9000 ft. It only happens while she’s skiing. It doesn’t seem to have any relation to what she eats or drinks and is not visibility related since it has occurred when sunny and clear. It has happened maybe once a season for the past few seasons to the point that she can’t ski the rest of the day. Yesterday, she skied two runs and had to stop. After an hour and a half she felt a little better so tried to ski some more which made it worse again. She struggled to ski back to the base to rest the remainder of the day. A few hours after stopping she felt back to normal. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, any suggestions? Also, definitely not pregnant. Took care of that once and for all a few years ago after having our 5th kid.
 
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Any dizziness associated with this nausea? I'm asking because it could be vertigo if there's dizziness with it.

No dizziness. Just nausea like she wants to throw up. She feels like if she did throw up she’d feel better.
 

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I had a little of this a few years back, and sometimes when my heart rate goes up, the stomach feels worse. It was related to diet, but it took me a while to figure it out because it was reaction to things (mostly dairy) that had never bugged me before in my whole life. So I would say don't dismiss diet out of hand yet. Otherwise, I don't know ...
 

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Weird this has come up today. 2nd run today I had to stop about a 1/4 way down as I was getting a dizzy/light headed feeling. Stopped immediately and it went away after about 90 seconds and was fine the rest of the day
 

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Happened to me twice this year. I think it's altitude sickness, even though I live at 6200 ft and work at 6700 ft, with a high enough hemocrit that I have to give blood a few times a year to keep it in check. I felt hammered at Snowbird and at Big Sky. I just headed down to the bottom and stayed there for about 20 minutes 'till I felt better.

I've heard viagra helps, but haven't done much research. Only recently got the generic stuff that makes it reasonable, $$-wise.
 

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My wife occasionally gets nauseous while skiing, very much like motion sickness. It’s not altitude related since we live in the Denver area and stay in the mountains frequently at around 9000 ft. It only happens while she’s skiing. It doesn’t seem to have any relation to what she eats or drinks and is not visibility related since it has occurred when sunny and clear. It has happened maybe once a season for the past few seasons to the point that she can’t ski the rest of the day. Yesterday, she skied two runs and had to stop. After an hour and a half she felt a little better so tried to ski some more which made it worse again. She struggled to ski back to the base to rest the remainder of the day. A few hours after stopping she felt back to normal. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, any suggestions? Also, definitely not pregnant. Took care of that once and for all a few years ago after having our 5th kid.
I have.
My bet is that she has a simple case of vertigo like motion sickness.
I've struggled with ear pressure when my sinuses flare up so I take Bonine almost every day before I ski.
 

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The first couple of times I went out this season, by the end of the day I would be feeling a little nauseous and just not great overall. I started drinking lots of water on the way to the mountain and that seems to have alleviated my issues.

There was one day where I did end up feeling quite nauseous but it was in a windy, white out so I think it was related to the visibility.
 

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Bonine is meclizine. I take meclizine when I get vertigo The vertigo comes without warning and can hang around for a week. For that reason, I tend to take meclizine with me when I travel, just in case.

Vertigo - for me - means dizziness and wobbly imbalance. It can happen even when just walking along, or when standing still. If it's really bad, it will be accompanied by nausea. At its worst, I can't walk and can barely crawl, and am totally overcome with nausea. It's an inner ear thing.

Meclizine eliminates the symptoms - for me anyway.
 

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@Prosper does your wife ever get motion sickness in a car/ bus, swinging on a swing, amusement park rides etc? I never got this, but then had really bad morning sickness with our 3 kids, and since then get motion sickness sometimes (only sometimes) in the back seat of a car taxi bus etc, and I also get it when I ski. I dont know if it's motion sickness (from the chairlift, or from skiing itself?) or some kind of vertigo (I honestly dont know exactly what that is). So many weird things happen to your body during & after pregnancy I just chalked it up to one of those things. Crackers & pretzels help. I also get totally tram-sick and occasionally gondola-sick, and Im not the only one (it's not just hungover people barfing). It's annoying and kind of embarrassing! But honestly I hadn't thought about it much until you posted this. Kudos to your wife for having 5 kids ha. If you figure out a solution please let me know!
 

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Like @Tricia and @LiquidFeet and others I'd bet on motion sickness. I get motion sickness occasionally when skiing (not as bad as your wife though) and occasionally when boating. I also get it when I do any kind of rapid rotation (so had to give up the switch double cork 1080's unfortunately). I just take over-the-counter medication when required.
 
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Thanks for all the replies and suggestions

The first couple of times I went out this season, by the end of the day I would be feeling a little nauseous and just not great overall. I started drinking lots of water on the way to the mountain and that seems to have alleviated my issues.

There was one day where I did end up feeling quite nauseous but it was in a windy, white out so I think it was related to the visibility.
I’m not exactly sure why but my wife prides herself in staying as dehydrated as possible so she doesn’t have to stop and pee very often during the day. I’ll encourage her to drink much more water before skiing.

Does she do other exercise?
She doesn’t do very much exercise. That’s no change from previous when she didn’t get nauseous when skiing. It’s only been maybe the past 3 seasons that it’s has happened and only about once a season.

Anything different about what she has eaten or drank those days? Time in her cycle?
We haven’t been able to associate it with specific food or drink. When it happened a couple of days ago my wife only had about 1/2 a cup of coffee in the morning as opposed to her typical 1-2 cups. Haven’t thought about time in her cycle but she’s not very prone to physical or emotional changes related to her cycle. Good thought. We’ll pay more attention to it.

Happened to me twice this year. I think it's altitude sickness, even though I live at 6200 ft and work at 6700 ft, with a high enough hemocrit that I have to give blood a few times a year to keep it in check. I felt hammered at Snowbird and at Big Sky. I just headed down to the bottom and stayed there for about 20 minutes 'till I felt better.

I've heard viagra helps, but haven't done much research. Only recently got the generic stuff that makes it reasonable, $$-wise.
Probably would be hard to convince my wife or very many women for that matter to take Viagra either brand or generic. I’ve had that conversation with a few female patients of mine who have Raynaud’s and whose blood pressure would not tolerate the 1st line treatments. We always have had a good laugh about it and haven’t had any takers yet.

@Prosper does your wife ever get motion sickness in a car/ bus, swinging on a swing, amusement park rides etc? I never got this, but then had really bad morning sickness with our 3 kids, and since then get motion sickness sometimes (only sometimes) in the back seat of a car taxi bus etc, and I also get it when I ski. I dont know if it's motion sickness (from the chairlift, or from skiing itself?) or some kind of vertigo (I honestly dont know exactly what that is). So many weird things happen to your body during & after pregnancy I just chalked it up to one of those things. Crackers & pretzels help. I also get totally tram-sick and occasionally gondola-sick, and Im not the only one (it's not just hungover people barfing). It's annoying and kind of embarrassing! But honestly I hadn't thought about it much until you posted this. Kudos to your wife for having 5 kids ha. If you figure out a solution please let me know!
Yes, she has always been prone to motion sickness especially sea sickness. Sitting in the back seat of a car can do it as well especially on winding roads. The drive from where we typically stay (Silverthorne) to the resort (Keystone) the other day was only about 20 minutes. It’s not a very curvy route but she did sit in the back seat. We have driven to Summit County from the Denver area the morning of and skied without problems. We did talk about whether the gondola or chairlift rides could be the culprit but after stopping for 1.5 hours, feeling a bit better and then skiing one run from the top to bottom of North Peak (no lift ride 1st) she felt terrible again. She did not have any morning sickness during any of the pregnancies. We adopted our 4th which in no way takes anything away from carrying and birthing the other 4 kids, 3 of which were completely without any pain medication during labor. With our last she wanted to see what she missed out on and decided to get an epidural.

It’s a bit of a mystery but sounds like the propensity to motion sickness probably combined with some other factors creates the perfect storm to bring on the nausea. We’ll try hydrating, making sure she’s well caffeinated and always have her sit in the front seat on the way to the mountain. If it continues maybe we’ll give meclizine or the acupressure wrist bands a go.
 

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@Prosper for me it's not the drive to the mountain, it's the skiing itself. @NZRob reminds me that another easy way for me to get sick is swings, all it takes is a few back and forths on a swingset to get me pretty sick. Amusement park rides hahaha no way -- I went on a kiddie ride that had an electric set of six swings that went back and forth (intended for the 2-6yo crowd) and barfed on some kids the minute I got off. Anything rapid rotation -- even watching it -- no way. Im not sure if it's related to morning sickness per se, just something about equilibrium being thrown off during the process of your organs being rearranged multiple times during multiple pregnancies? Not very scientific. & it's possible that the drive to the mountain doesn't help either.
And speaking of weird pregnancy things, Im not sure if you were joking about not getting why your wife likes to be dehydrated, but after having a few kids, there is this thing, when you gotta go you really really gotta go and if you're skiing that's just not always possible. Just saying! That's all the gross anecdotal info I have for the moment.
 

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@Prosper for me it's not the drive to the mountain, it's the skiing itself. @NZRob reminds me that another easy way for me to get sick is swings, all it takes is a few back and forths on a swingset to get me pretty sick. Amusement park rides hahaha no way -- I went on a kiddie ride that had an electric set of six swings that went back and forth (intended for the 2-6yo crowd) and barfed on some kids the minute I got off. Anything rapid rotation -- even watching it -- no way. Im not sure if it's related to morning sickness per se, just something about equilibrium being thrown off during the process of your organs being rearranged multiple times during multiple pregnancies? Not very scientific. & it's possible that the drive to the mountain doesn't help either.
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So I've never been pregnant but our symptoms are basically the same. Unfortunately pregnancy has messed up your inner ear - I'm sure your kids are worth it :)
 

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I’m not exactly sure why but my wife prides herself in staying as dehydrated as possible so she doesn’t have to stop and pee very often during the day. I’ll encourage her to drink much more water before skiing.
That is a big problem at altitude where air is much dryer than you think, even when it is snowing. On the multi-day cat skiing trips I've done four of the last five years, during the announcements the night before any skiing, they make a special mention that women need to drink water DURING the ski day and to let the guides know when they need to pee and they will make arrangements for privacy. Note that there are no bathrooms available and it usually means going behind the cat after all the men have loaded.

The cat ski company I go with provides one liter water bottles for each customer with their name on it to prevent any sharing of bottles and germs. I find myself going through a full bottle during the day and then usually another half bottle plus often have some bouillon soup or tea. I've also found that running out of water can limit how many laps I can ski Mott Canyon at Heavenly where it can be very dry and gets warm.

I've been getting a little dizzy this season when I ski hard on 16m radius Heads I added to my quiver when I was having binding issues with other skis. I've found it's worse if I take any edibles, which I have not done lately although they are legal in the states where I usually ski.
 
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@Prosper for me it's not the drive to the mountain, it's the skiing itself. @NZRob reminds me that another easy way for me to get sick is swings, all it takes is a few back and forths on a swingset to get me pretty sick. Amusement park rides hahaha no way -- I went on a kiddie ride that had an electric set of six swings that went back and forth (intended for the 2-6yo crowd) and barfed on some kids the minute I got off. Anything rapid rotation -- even watching it -- no way. Im not sure if it's related to morning sickness per se, just something about equilibrium being thrown off during the process of your organs being rearranged multiple times during multiple pregnancies? Not very scientific. & it's possible that the drive to the mountain doesn't help either.
And speaking of weird pregnancy things, Im not sure if you were joking about not getting why your wife likes to be dehydrated, but after having a few kids, there is this thing, when you gotta go you really really gotta go and if you're skiing that's just not always possible. Just saying! That's all the gross anecdotal info I have for the moment.
Certain amusement park rides, like the spinning ones, make her motion sick. No problems with roller coasters though. My wife has an iron bladder and can hold off of peeing pretty much indefinitely despite having lots of kids. Drinking coffee or alcohol doesn’t have any diuretic effect on her. I do think being at higher altitude and not being adequately hydrated is probably one of the factors that contributes to it.
 

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So, it might peripheral vertigo or it might be motion sickness. There's two types of vertigo, central, caused by problem in the brainstem, and peripheral caused by a problem in the inner ear.

Your inner ear sends messages to your brain about how your head is oriented. You have 3 semicircular tubes in your inner ear, one for each plane. Inside each tube are small pieces of sand (not really sand, but that texture). The sand moves with gravity and little sensors in the tubes sense where the sand is, and send a message to the brain that allows it to triangulate what your heads orientation is. The system can fault in two general ways. The most common is some inflammation that can either cause the sensors to trigger when they shouldn't (i.e. sand isn't resting on them), or not trigger when they should. This is self limited. Less commonly the sand bits can get stuck or dislocated. This is usually a result of violent head movements (most commonly amusement park rides). Your brain eventually re-calibrates itself, but this can take several days and the vertigo can be very severe. Both cases improve with medications (like antivert or benzodiazepenes. These medications work by attenuating the signal the inner ear sends to the brain (which is why they can effect balance negatively when taking for other reasons).

Motion sickness is different. The brain uses three inputs to determine position and orientation, messages from your inner ear, small receptors in our joints/hands/feet that sense position, and vision. When the brain gets conflicting information it can think you are moving even when you aren't, or think you're stationary when you're not. In cars/planes/boats it occurs because, if you are not looking outside the vehicle at stable terrain, your ear/joint sensors sense subtle movement, but your eyes see stability (since the car/plane/boat is stable from your point of view). That's why reading/watching a screen can make motion sickness worse, and looking out the window can make it better. This can occur in skiing in whiteout conditions (can't see a stable horizon), and sometimes with skiers that constantly look down at their feet. The same medicines that work for vertigo also work for this, by the same mechanism, you need to be cautious as they are working by inhibiting your body's natural balance mechanisms. First thing I'd recommend is to make sure she is looking down the hill when skiing. If she already is, then it might be worth trying a motion sickness medication (with the caveat that she should ski easy stuff when she first takes it to see how it effects her).
 

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