How To Ski Heavy Chopped Up Bumpy Snow

[cantunamunch]

(sorry couldn't resist and surprised it hadn't already been posted... it's the standard Epic/Pug response after all)

60 posts and not one link to the Crudology video

 

[dbostedo]

60 posts and not one link to the Crudology video

You could have fixed that, you know. Point taken though...

 

[slowrider]

Smile, you look better when you crash.

 

[skiwv]

I think really the worse it gets, the more you just try to keep your balance and hope your knees survive the run.

 

[Dakine]

It's not that the heavy, cruddy, bumpy snow sucks, it's that your skiing sucks and the cruddy snow proves it.

(sorry couldn't resist and surprised it hadn't already been posted... it's the standard Epic/Pug response after all)

That's the kind of macho bullshit that will put you in the hospital.

 

[Rod9301]

That's the kind of macho bullshit that will put you in the hospital.

Actually, i think skiing bumps with heavy cut up snow is a lot of fun. For one thing, it slows you down.

 

[Noodler]

That's the kind of macho bullshit that will put you in the hospital.

Sounds like you're completely unfamiliar with the "standard" Epic/PugSki response from the past 15 years. This isn't something I created... but I wish I did!

 

[givethepigeye]

The Crudology video looks fun, although that snow doesn't look really "heavy" to me.

 

[Noodler]

The Crudology video looks fun, although that snow doesn't look really "heavy" to me.

Yeah, this was commented about when it was first released. Let's see some real crud!

 

[dbostedo]

The Crudology video looks fun, although that snow doesn't look really "heavy" to me.

Yeah, this was commented about when it was first released. Let's see some real crud!

Perhaps their skiing just makes it look lighter than it really is.... I don't know. But I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

 

[dbostedo]

That's the kind of macho bullshit that will put you in the hospital.

Sounds like you're completely unfamiliar with the "standard" Epic/PugSki response from the past 15 years. This isn't something I created... but I wish I did!

The original quote, I think, was in response to the skiers who think of themselves as experts, despite saying that they can't ski bumps (or don't ski bumps). The response a lot of people liked, that became a meme, was "It's not that you can't ski bumps, it's that you can't ski, and the bumps prove it." In gentler terms, skiing bumps can reveal deficiencies in technique that affects all of your skiing, not just your bump skiing.

The meme part became things like "it's not that you can drive in snow, it's that you can't drive, and the snow proves it", or "it's not that you can't bake pastries, it's that you can't bake, and the pastries prove it"... etc., etc.

 

[Ogg]

The original quote, I think, was in response to the skiers who think of themselves as experts, despite saying that they can't ski bumps (or don't ski bumps). The response a lot of people liked, that became a meme, was "It's not that you can't ski bumps, it's that you can't ski, and the bumps prove it." In gentler terms, skiing bumps can reveal deficiencies in technique that affects all of your skiing, not just your bump skiing.

The meme part became things like "it's not that you can drive in snow, it's that you can't drive, and the snow proves it", or "it's not that you can't bake pastries, it's that you can't bake, and the pastries prove it"... etc., etc.

Imo, the meme is pretty universal and you could substitute ice, powder, running gates etc. and it would still be accurate. If it gets you bent out of shape you need to take a good look in the mirror. If you can’t admit your own deficiencies you will never improve them.

 

[Viking9]

I think skis built like the Rossi Scimitar, which I own,or the Nordica Steadfast, both twin tips can really make conditions like that a lot more enjoyable.Both are solid in the middle and the tips and tails don’t get in the way,,,,,for me of course.

 

[markojp]

I suggest plan B.
Trying to ski in heavy, sloppy piled snow is a great way to get hurt and is never fun.
The forces get huge and the snow is waiting to take one of your skis in a bad direction.
Go to the Bar!

If you come to ski in the PNW/coast range BC, you're going to have a big bar tab.

 

[slowrider]

 

[mister moose]

Trying to ski in heavy, sloppy piled snow is a great way to get hurt and is never fun. The forces get huge and the snow is waiting to take one of your skis in a bad direction.
Go to the Bar!

Not so fast. We ski on wet piles of corn the entire month of May. And we go to the bar. Hence the solution is inclusive, not exclusive.

Heavy, wet, goopy crud

Goopy? Like sheetrock compound? Ok, now I'm going to the bar.

You need both, IMO. Finding an appropriate balance between power and finesse in tough conditions is something we all should strive for.

Max power and max finesse. Weak and sloppy is no way to go through life. Warp factor 3, Scotty.

 

[DoryBreaux]

Lots of good stuff in here, especially about core usage. I find that speed helps me in crud/chop. Speed and adjusting turn shape so skis are never moving truly across the hill. Thats just me though, ymmv.

 

[Dakine]

Lots of good stuff in here, especially about core usage. I find that speed helps me in crud/chop. Speed and adjusting turn shape so skis are never moving truly across the hill. Thats just me though, ymmv.

I agree and it is that speed thing that makes skiing in real slop dangerous.
When I start seeing carve marks that are 6" deep, I quit.
More than power or finesse slop skiing at speed requires total concentration.
Ruts and what not are constantly trying to kick your skis out of line and when you are on plane they don't have a lot of directional stability.
One lapse in concentration, let that inside ski wander a bit and things go bad in a hurry.
Fun to watch from the bar though when the macho men get sucked in.

 

[Tricia]

The Crudology video looks fun, although that snow doesn't look really "heavy" to me.

Nah, its just that those guys and gals are so smooth, they make it look easy.
@James @Bob Barnes @Chris Geib @Dan Egan and the like. I'd have to watch it again, but I think @KevinF is in there too.

Perhaps their skiing just makes it look lighter than it really is.... I don't know. But I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

 

[dbostedo]

I'd have to watch it again, but I think @KevinF is in there too.

He is!