Skis lost camber (and grew rocker?)

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If factory data is not given out how did you get your number of 50 - 60 days? My 100 days is based on customer feedback from when I worked in a shop. Maybe the people that say 125 days are lighter weight but most people I have had contact with seem to say 100 days is a benchmark. Maybe a pole could be done here in the PUGSKI community about what their expectations of life expectancy of a ski.
about the same as the licks in a Tootsie Roll lollypop.
 

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I keep track of days for each of my skis. My skis get pretty useless after about 75/80 days.
My son's skis are totally trashed after about 50 days. He also weights in at around #220.
Same make, model, gen. All hand tuned myself.
 

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I'm fairly heavy, I ski hard, and I ski full days. So my 50 to 60 might be as much wear someone else's 100.
 

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I don’t think you can throw a number out on how many days in a ski’s life. I think a lot of it depends on the construction of the Ski, how you ski it, how strong you are along with weight & the type of snow you are skiing on.
I had a pair of foam core skis from a French manufacturer that lost their zing after about only a week. I could still ski them but they certainly weren’t as snappy. On the other hand, I expect my current carbon fiber skis to maintain there torsional rigidity for many years to come. My powder skis which are at least 10 years old, just seem to get better with age.
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I don’t think you can throw a number out on how many days in a ski’s life. I think a lot of it depends on the construction of the Ski, how you ski it, how strong you are along with weight & the type of snow you are skiing on.
I'd agree with that. The Navigators are the first ski I ever felt that I wore out. (I have broken skis, but that's different.) I'm guessing the relatively soft flex might be related.

I noticed the camber was gone near the end of my Taos week. Then near the end of my next trip (the Jackson week) the rocker developed.
 

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I keep track of days for each of my skis. My skis get pretty useless after about 75/80 days.
My son's skis are totally trashed after about 50 days. He also weights in at around #220.
Same make, model, gen. All hand tuned myself.
You notice any difference with the Stocklis? Or does just Mamie ski Stockli?
 

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I have been feeling this season that my skis are close to death, camber-wise. I'm the epitome of lightweight, and conservatively, there are at least 150 days on them.
If you are skiing softer snow I would think a ski might last longer than if you are constantly on ICE.
 

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My 8 year old MX88's were felling a little blah so I had a very good tune on them , and after over 100 days on them they still certainly aren't the same as they were new. Its very sad because they had alway put a smile on my face . Now they have a lot of thin cover days ahead
 

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You notice any difference with the Stocklis? Or does just Mamie ski Stockli?
You know I am a Kendo guy. I have Stocklis but not enough days to really tell. Will know more with more new data next season.
My Kastles are about similar to my Volkls. 80/85 days.

Asking Mamie for direct input is akin to pissing into the wind. However, being her long time dedicated ski tech, I do have some observations. She started the 18/19 season with 2 pairs of 85W. One new pair and one old pair. Same manufacture year and graphic. The old pair has 108 days at the beginning of the season. The new pair is brand new. She skied them interchangeably without any comments. With her, no news is good news.

She started this season (19/20) with the same two pairs. One with 148 days and the newer with 82 days. She still hasn’t voiced any complaints yet.
While in Taos, I mixed up her two pairs after a tuning session. Putting back together mixed. one new ski with one old ski in each pair. She skied one of the mixed pair for three days before I noticed. I know because I have small labels on each of the skis. She thought they skied perfectly fine. Good enough for me.

Being the proverbial cynic, I would normally dismiss that as the skier lacking feel for their equipment. Being her long time ski tech, I could say she can’t really describe what she like about a pair of ski other than with a smile on her face. She also can’t tell me why she doesn’t like about a pair of skis. But I can tell by the look on her face and the body language. I like her best when she is smiling.

From past experience, I will start looking for a second pair of the same ski for her after about 75 days. She will then ski the two pairs interchangeably for about another 30 or 40 days. The old pair usually get tossed after another 25 days or whenever she no longer happy with them. That was the pattern for her last two sets of Salomon and Dynastar DD.

Going by her smile, so far I am very impressed by the durability of her Stocklis. Actively looking for a third pair of 85W for her. Since I am not enamored with the new Kendo, looks like I will switch partly to Stockli next season and see whether they will hold up for me.
 

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You know I am a Kendo guy. I have Stocklis but not enough days to really tell. Will know more with more new data next season.
My Kastles are about similar to my Volkls. 80/85 days.

Asking Mamie for direct input is akin to pissing into the wind. However, being her long time dedicated ski tech, I do have some observations. She started the 18/19 season with 2 pairs of 85W. One new pair and one old pair. Same manufacture year and graphic. The old pair has 108 days at the beginning of the season. The new pair is brand new. She skied them interchangeably without any comments. With her, no news is good news.

She started this season (19/20) with the same two pairs. One with 148 days and the newer with 82 days. She still hasn’t voiced any complaints yet.
While in Taos, I mixed up her two pairs after a tuning session. Putting back together mixed. one new ski with one old ski in each pair. She skied one of the mixed pair for three days before I noticed. I know because I have small labels on each of the skis. She thought they skied perfectly fine. Good enough for me.

Being the proverbial cynic, I would normally dismiss that as the skier lacking feel for their equipment. Being her long time ski tech, I could say she can’t really describe what she like about a pair of ski other than with a smile on her face. She also can’t tell me why she doesn’t like about a pair of skis. But I can tell by the look on her face and the body language. I like her best when she is smiling.

From past experience, I will start looking for a second pair of the same ski for her after about 75 days. She will then ski the two pairs interchangeably for about another 30 or 40 days. The old pair usually get tossed after another 25 days or whenever she no longer happy with them. That was the pattern for her last two sets of Salomon and Dynastar DD.

Going by her smile, so far I am very impressed by the durability of her Stocklis. Actively looking for a third pair of 85W for her. Since I am not enamored with the new Kendo, looks like I will switch partly to Stockli next season and see whether they will hold up for me.
Are the skis most of the time on soft snow or the east coast ice?
 

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Are the skis most of the time on soft snow or the east coast ice?
For Mamie's skis. I would say 85/15 western soft vs eastern hard pack.

For me, FIS SL for the NE and all mountain for the west.
 
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