Has anybody skied or at least hand flexed an rc85? I didn't know these were available. Any metal?
AFAIK, they don't exist yet. Best bet would be to contact Marshal directly to see if he might have a demo.Has anybody skied or at least hand flexed an rc85? I didn't know these were available. Any metal?
Fwiw I just got my 185 fl105s and they hand flex a little bit stiffer than my 2022 189 bonafide 97s especially in the front half of the ski. These are not soft noodles. Waiting on bindings before I can ski them but I have high expectations.AFAIK, they don't exist yet. Best bet would be to contact Marshal directly to see if he might have a demo.
No metal, same layup as the FL105, what Marshal describes as "the most metal non-metal ski."
What I love about the FL105 layup is the stiff tip with a slightly softer tail. That tip is why they just blow through variable snow/chop/3D like it's not there, but with the softer tail you can get them to release when you need them to. That tip rocker, as well, means they have no problem in soft snow. I stand by my statement that they are the most versatile ski I've been on. By far.Fwiw I just got my 185 fl105s and they hand flex a little bit stiffer than my 2022 189 bonafide 97s especially in the front half of the ski. These are not soft noodles. Waiting on bindings before I can ski them but I have high expectations.
Marshal is super helpful answering questions.
This ski is less demanding, softer than the Kendo. It’s got a bigger sweet spot.MMMM, low camber stiffer tip, softer tail, sounds like a modern Volkl freeride flex without the tinny part. pretty sure an Rc85 is headed for my quiver.
@Brian Finch I know at one point. Your were grooving on a Kendo, is the FL 105 a similar flex profile?
I am already wondering if I even need a 110ish under-foot ski
I'd be curious what you settle on with regards to the tune. I have been thinking about dropping mine from 1.5/2 to 1/2.I have a 185 FL105 and a 189 bonafide 97 (2022). I'm still dialing in the tune on the FL105s but they are damper than the bonafides and prefer higher speeds. On the firm I the different stiffness profiles are apparent (FL105s are noticeably stiffer up front) and the longer radius. I have also skied an r99 188 am for a day and the FL105 is a noticeably stronger ski and plows through chop much better, on firm the differences are mostly due to shape and stiffness, the r99am was a bit soft for me but fun to load up and pop out of turns, the FL105 is stiffer and damper so doesn't return as much energy.
Thanks for the beta!. I have also skied an r99 188 am for a day and the FL105 is a noticeably stronger ski and plows through chop much better, on firm the differences are mostly due to shape and stiffness, the r99am was a bit soft for me but fun to load up and pop out of turns, the FL105 is stiffer and damper so doesn't return as much energy.
Thanks for the beta!
My R99 is the comp core, which feels really nice to me on hard snow. It can be a bit of a handful in bumps though I think some of that is the tip shape. Not sure how I’d feel about something dramatically stiffer (the Legend Pro also isn’t a very stiff ski). Hopefully I can try a FL105 one of these days. I’m definitely intrigued, I love damp and long radius designs.
How about the length for heavier skiers? 178 is pretty good East it seems, but maybe not west.Ok, here’s my initial thoughts after 4 days of ripping about on the new FL 105 in the 178cm: BOOM!!
The paradoxical thing I found with last storm was that in 20" of the snow, the length was perfect. I was wanting to try the 185 on firm stuff.How about the length for heavier skiers? 178 is pretty good East it seems, but maybe not west.
I'm 6'3" 205lbs and on the 185. I'm getting them dialed in but they are not too short, I don't think I can find a speed limit without a closed course. Marshal is my size and suggested the 185 for my terrain. The 192s sound awesome for open terrain but at that point I might err on the fl113 if I could find a set for my dream every ski I want quiver.How about the length for heavier skiers? 178 is pretty good East it seems, but maybe not west.
Not worried about too short, mainly too long for the east.I'm 6'3" 205lbs and on the 185. I'm getting them dialed in but they are not too short,
Here's my take:Not worried about too short, mainly too long for the east.
What of the enormous sidecut? 27.5m at 185?
27m is not an enormous sidecut, I have 2 other skis in my quiver that are longer. These are a mixed snow ski that can carve long turns and slarve shorter ones, while mowing through chop. A shorter radius would make them hookier in funky snow. I haven't skied these back to back with my bonafide 97s (189/r20) but I would say they are easier at making shorter turns in soft snow due to more tail rocker but prefer longer turns on the hardpack and have better suspension through crud with a higher speed preference and limit.Not worried about too short, mainly too long for the east.
What of the enormous sidecut? 27.5m at 185?
Certainly not common for these days anyway. Though we’ve been putting too much sidecut in skis recently. It’s shapely for 2000, and non existent shapely for pre 93. What are the other skis?27m is not an enormous sidecut, I have 2 other skis in my quiver that are longer.