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So you probably know me and I ll keep this fairly short.
Skier
Age 32
190lb
5'10
PSIA Ed Staff
like it all but lives for tree skiing.
Ski
186cm 2015 4frnt Renegade
Dimensions (mm): 135-122-129
Turn Radius: 35 meters
Actual Tip to Tail Length (straight tape pull): 185cm
mounted at 86cm from the tail with 4frnt touring binding.
the 4frnt renegade is some deep but wind crusted snow
the 4frnt renegade in some really hard wind slab.
The 4frnt Renegade is the best weird 3d snow to ever be created. Its stiff flex(like stiffer than any ski you currently own), reflect tech side cut, full reverse camber, and almost full reverse side cut will simply destroy any mank, wind crust, rain crust, sun crust, wind slab, upside down snow, or heavy wet snow that you can find. Any size turn at any speed in the worst possible 3d snow you can think of. huge sweet spot, responds to any correct input you give it, punishes back seat driving and full body turners.
It is how ever without its minuses. Hard groomers? there are reports on TGR that its like a fat SG ski. Yeah right. This ski is awful on groomers you can do some smeared open parallel turns but they are awkward as all hell and require way to much attention. If it bumps up and or on choppy groomer you lower leg feels like its going to shatter as you hit stuff and the renegade just doesnt conform and laughs at your silly human bones.
Its also quite awful in REALLY light powder of any depth. This ski needs at least Medium density snow to have something to platform against, in really light snow the tip just spears and its basically impossible to turn. I have 2 skis that ski light snow way better my Patrons and TSTs.
its also surprising good at really flat tree skiing(in 3d snow). You can keep huge speed and just tip you skis and go where you want, super intuitive.
If you live in place that get weird snow like I described and you want to basically go mach looney in the weird stuff I highly recommend this ski. If this is your only powder ski though you might find it lack versatility. If you want the same weird snow skiability in slighltly more manageable on hardpack snow and lighter powder the 4 frnt Hoji is the go to and the Devastator is a great ski for crud busting.
Skier
Age 32
190lb
5'10
PSIA Ed Staff
like it all but lives for tree skiing.
Ski
186cm 2015 4frnt Renegade
Dimensions (mm): 135-122-129
Turn Radius: 35 meters
Actual Tip to Tail Length (straight tape pull): 185cm
mounted at 86cm from the tail with 4frnt touring binding.
the 4frnt renegade is some deep but wind crusted snow
the 4frnt renegade in some really hard wind slab.
The 4frnt Renegade is the best weird 3d snow to ever be created. Its stiff flex(like stiffer than any ski you currently own), reflect tech side cut, full reverse camber, and almost full reverse side cut will simply destroy any mank, wind crust, rain crust, sun crust, wind slab, upside down snow, or heavy wet snow that you can find. Any size turn at any speed in the worst possible 3d snow you can think of. huge sweet spot, responds to any correct input you give it, punishes back seat driving and full body turners.
It is how ever without its minuses. Hard groomers? there are reports on TGR that its like a fat SG ski. Yeah right. This ski is awful on groomers you can do some smeared open parallel turns but they are awkward as all hell and require way to much attention. If it bumps up and or on choppy groomer you lower leg feels like its going to shatter as you hit stuff and the renegade just doesnt conform and laughs at your silly human bones.
Its also quite awful in REALLY light powder of any depth. This ski needs at least Medium density snow to have something to platform against, in really light snow the tip just spears and its basically impossible to turn. I have 2 skis that ski light snow way better my Patrons and TSTs.
its also surprising good at really flat tree skiing(in 3d snow). You can keep huge speed and just tip you skis and go where you want, super intuitive.
If you live in place that get weird snow like I described and you want to basically go mach looney in the weird stuff I highly recommend this ski. If this is your only powder ski though you might find it lack versatility. If you want the same weird snow skiability in slighltly more manageable on hardpack snow and lighter powder the 4 frnt Hoji is the go to and the Devastator is a great ski for crud busting.