Has anyone skied the 2017 Salomon X-Race SW? Hw does it fit in this category?
we dont get any of the Salomon race line in the US (not sure if Canada still gets them) so very few of them around
Has anyone skied the 2017 Salomon X-Race SW? Hw does it fit in this category?
PS -- Typo: These are RC's not SC's. 4 days on the skis. Have the base tune dialed in. They are very easy skiing high performance skis that make me feel a lot more, relaxed, comfortable and confident on my skis. Very happy with the skis and a new pair of Tecnica Mach 1 MV's. A comfy combo.Further to my comments about the category, I got in two short days on a new pair of Fischer RC4 SC's that I picked up at the end of last season but never skied until yesterday. I've been a bit lost in the wilderness of wider skis for a few years, but after feeling these hook up and begging me to hit the gas, I'm thinking that these will be my everyday eastern skis as long as I'm skiing on firm snow. Very solid, accurate feel throughout the turn. Go where you point them, and don't need to be coaxed back on course.
I put a 1 degree bevel on the base and 3 degree on the side. I'm going to take a little more metal off the base edge (keeping the same 1 degree bevel). The iron grabs a little while waxing, so this should get them dialed in a bit better.
Mine too... Bought a pair....Head's World Cup Rebels i.Speeds have got my attention....
I think you are correct. I also heard from somebody at Head that RD is "Race Department" and they also have "RP" which is one notch down from RD but still a notch (or several) up from the "regular" non-RD SL and GS skis...So I'm guessing the i.Speed is more a civilian GS ski & the i.Race is more SL oriented? I am definitely interested in the differences between the two.
Philpug or Scotskier, can you describe how the skis like the Rossi master or blizzard/nordica compare to their respective brands' transitional FIS GS skis in the largest sizes like 182/25? I have the 18m hero master that I use for beer league, and have tested the 21m hero master as I'd like a little more ski for masters races. The 21m felt a little slow edge to edge, so I'm curious if a narrower ski would feel quicker even if it had to be bent or angled a little more to get the same radius. I'm 5'10" 160lbs, so not sure if I would be too heavy for those type of skis or not. Unfortunately, women's FIS are just too much in the midwest. Even on masters courses we just don't have enough vertical for GS sets much beyond 23-25 meters or extended steep pitches where we can really get a big ski to bend for more than a handful of direction changes.
@ScotsSkier , I wonder if just the W 183/23 old FIS ski might work well for this? I have a pair I use just for recreational skiing (Volkl Racetiger), and it has a great feel to it. It's faster and crisper-turning than the around r 18 skis, but still good for shorter GS turns. And at times these can still be gotten cheaply, all set up and prepped, and in great condition, often - fairly lightly used by some FIS or transition racer, who was simply moving up to longer specs. (I'm 5'10" around 150 lbs., older guy).
Abolutely.! In most cases they are built a bit stronger than the "tweener" ski and will hold up better for us ummm.....shall we say more mature, larger girth racers. But these are becoming harder to find now in decent condition since it is ~ 5+ years since they were last produced and most have seen a fair bit of use by now so starting to lose some pop and lateral torsional rigidity. The Volkl is certainly a good option for those of lighters weight (<165) having a (relatively) softer flex that cdfan be more easily bent into the turn then some others.
Thanks to everyone for your replies and advice.
Muleski, shall I read your daughter's experience as a recommendation that a women's FIS ski may not be too much, or am I over reading you there?
Thanks to everyone for your replies and advice.
Muleski, shall I read your daughter's experience as a recommendation that a women's FIS ski may not be too much, or am I over reading you there?
No, you have the right read, based on her experience. I can't think of anybody I know who has not preferred the most recent womens 188cm FIS GS skis to the skis built to fit the older{shorter, smaller radius} skis.
I think that as a guy, @ScotsSkier is probably your best source of info and confirmation as he has a lot of miles on a variety of the skis.
My son is a coach. Granted, he coaches pretty high level kids. Almost all of his second year U16 girls are skiing a 188cm.
People tend to get hung up on radius, length worrry about FIS. And ignore that the skis are really easy for a skilled pilot to ski. If a skied can't engage the tip of the ski, bring it up in edge, bend it, release it, etc. not so much.
Make sense? @ScotsSkier can weigh in. Probably Is as I type!
I think the Dynastars are significantly newer. Maybe 2011. The Rossi graphic goes back to the mid 2000s, right? 2006?rails on ice, favorite ski for on top of glacier or when Im alone.
10 points to anyone for calling the year
Yeah I was going to say 2007. Around the time period they had that ski with the different length arms you attach to the shovel.I think the Dynastars are significantly newer. Maybe 2011. The Rossi graphic goes back to the mid 2000s, right? 2006?
Bump to ask whether this still applies with recent models: are the Blizzard WRC and Nordica GSM (both with piston) similar, and are they both at the high end of race performance for skis with radius around 20m?Here is a breakdown of Masters skis for 2017; let the gate-crashing begin!
Category 3: Masters Race Skis
In this segment we start to see radii more converging to real GS race skis, into the 20+ range. Race plates and bindings are the same as the FIS siblings. For the most part these are typically ~ 70mm waist width, giving a slightly wider platform than a mid 60s GS race ski but from some Companies their "masters" ski is simply a retread of the dimensions of the previous generation FIS ski. Make no mistake, these are definitely real race tools though.
Blizzard WRC Racing/Nordica GSR
Dimensions: scaled
Sizes:
Radius: 20m@182 cm
- 167 (115-71-99.5)
- 176 (115-71-99.9)
- 182 (115-71-100)
- 186 (115-71-100)
Plate: Marker WC Piston Control Interface
Binding (optional): Marker X-Cell 12.0, Marker X-Cell 16.0
I must admit to some bias here, having been successfully racing on Blizzard FIS GS skis for several seasons now! The Blizz/Nordi twins continue the themes found in their FIS race skis. While in this iteration they are more user friendly than their upper-level siblings, they are still on the firmer end of the spectrum. The construction mirrors the full-sidewall FIS ski and they use the marker WC piston plate (IMHO probably the best plate out there). These skis will respond and perform in direct proportion to the skill and input of the user. They will provide the level of performance required to compete in a real USSA/FIS GS course for a Masters racer while being a little more user friendly than the 30/35m FIS versions. THE WRC RACING IS THE ULTIMATE BEER LEAGUE OR MASTERSY GS FEEL. IT WILL ALLOW
- Who is it for? A stronger or more experienced Masters racer who can properly drive the ski.
- Who is it not for? The less dynamic skier who will not give it maximum attack.
- Insider tip: If you are prepared to get on board and drive it this ski, it can get you on or near the podium. You can also use the older Marker Comp binding (I recommend the Comp20).