That is something I have thought about. Every time I pull out my stock liners shoving them back into the boot seems to take its toll. I know they suggest warming your boots to make them pliable, but still...Another vote for Zipfit. That is based on 300+ days experience in those liners. Much better experience and longevity compared to everything else I have used, including Strolz and Sidas foam liners. No experience however with Intuition.
I have found Zipfits to be very comfortable, probably partly because you don’t need to screw the buckles down to race-tightness to achieve great heel & forefoot hold-down. Some reviewers have said they are cold, but I cannot say I have noticed any significant difference between them and foam or stock liners. Using the recommended approach of putting the liners on first and then the shell (and the opposite for removal) is easy. It also means the liner is out of the boot each night, allowing them to dry out better.
The negatives? After 300 days, they now look really trashed from the abrasion caused by repetitive insertion / extraction into and out the boot shell. They still function, but the cosmetics are not good! The toe box is made of neoprene, which is not water-proof. If your shell leaks, then your feet will get wet. Finally... they are expensive (but possibly not on a $/day basis).
I have the Intuition Pro Tongue. I love them and they are warmer than the stock liners from my Lange's & Head's. I've never used the Zipfit's so I can't comment or compare, but I've felt like it was money well spent.Would like to hear some more info about the Intuition liners........shop near me recommended them as a replacement last for my Lange RX110's that have about 150 days on them. Want to hear more info and insights before moving forward.
Ease of entry -> Intuition beats ZipFit by a mile. Intuition lets you ooze into your boot where ZipFit makes you do the yank squirm yank dance.Would like to hear some more info about the Intuition liners........shop near me recommended them as a replacement last for my Lange RX110's that have about 150 days on them. Want to hear more info and insights before moving forward.
I used the stock liners for quite a few days in the resort and also touring in the backcountry. They did pack out a tad but they still fit well. I just wanted to stiffen up the boots specially for when I had the extra weight of my backpack on. I also wanted to add some warmth. The Hawx XTDs are not as cold as my Langes but still could use some improvement. The stock XTD liner is more flexible so tours a tad better although it would benefit from having laces like the ones in the Intuitions.Ken did you go to Intuition immediately in the Hawks or did you wait for the original liners to pack out. I have the same boots and am still using the original liners. My previous boots had Intuition pro liners which I also liked very much. Just curious. Agree with your pros and cons re. the Intuition liners.
I had my pro liners reheated and the heel slid over to the side and I didn't realize. I could never get the liner to fit right again. Went to the wrong shop for that one, ugh.
I bought the Hawx Prime 130 boots this last February. I thought I would use the stock liners until they packed out and then install the Zipfits from my previous boots. That joke lasted for about a week... just could not get the hold-down and comfort, even with a lot of messing around in the ski shop. Threw away the stock liners and went back to the Zipfits. Chalk and cheese!Ken did you go to Intuition immediately in the Hawks or did you wait for the original liners to pack out. ...