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Whew!I like this. Something we agree on - finally!
Whew!I like this. Something we agree on - finally!
Hilarious!@James
I know for certain you would not be able to make round turns on boards. I tried lol. You would have to pivot the board to a 90 degrees angle to the slope and then you would have to go straight across the slope in order to make 'turns'.
But if you think you can, try skiing on langlauf ski's and see how it goes. Here is a taste:
There is no evidence that most turns are circular and no I do not mean perfectly geometrically circular. But the theory behind how a ski steers is definitely known. It is impossible to ski rounded turns without some sort of camber or shape. The physics is very clear about that.
Not unless your weight on them puts a little reverse camber into them, or you provide a twisting force.So, you don’t think we could do round turns with boards?
No, their boot/binding interface is hopeless.But if you know how hopeless it is to make turns on these things, then shouldn't it be quite logical that if you remove the camber also it will be completely impossible to turn? Everything that allows for turning forces will be no longer there. Hence, no turn by tipping it on edge...
You mean torsional twist?Not unless your weight on them puts a little reverse camber into them, or you provide a twisting force.
No - I meant literally twisting you legs or whole body by throwing your weight around. I think if you try to, say, do garlands with straight boards that don't flex into reverse camber, you're just going to scribe a straight line across the hill.You mean torsional twist?
It’s not a question of if one can, but that they don’t. The observation has been that for years, actually since Book 1, they demo it with a blocking pole plant. Doing it without doesn’t change doing it with on every demo. There’s great care in planting and stabilizing the pole downhill behind the foot. In action it’s the definition of a blocking pole plant.Not sure if this is the thread, but there was some question whether a two footed release can be done without poles.
Ok, but I saw many posts where is said that it can't be done without a poker plant.It’s not a question of if one can, but that they don’t. The observation has been that for years, actually since Book 1, they demo it with a blocking pole plant. Doing it without doesn’t change doing it with on every demo. There’s great care in planting and stabilizing the pole downhill behind the foot. In action it’s the definition of a blocking pole plant.
The denial of reality is more interesting than the use. There’s a reason to use it.
Lol. So, now one isn’t allowed to use normal techniques to ski?No - I meant literally twisting you legs or whole body by throwing your weight around. I think if you try to, say, do garlands with straight boards that don't flex into reverse camber, you're just going to scribe a straight line across the hill.
You’re going to have to point to me what section you want me to read.@James
Hasn't got anything to do with boot/binding interface.
^In this experiment they skied on this:
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The skiers still made the ski's turn on these things as their bindings...
I don't know what it is called, but some people do snowboarding without safety binding. Looks like a skateboard, but with edges. You simply stand on it, no safety binding no nothing. It turns cause it has shape...
It looks kind of like this:
EDIT:
This is what I meant, apparently it is called a snowskate.
My bad. I thought that was exactly what you claimed in this statement:Plus, i never claimed this was a theoretical rigid straight board.
I’m totally confident I could do basic wedge turns, on normal eastern firm surface, with bindings screwed to 1 x 4 boards chin to head high. No sidecut, no camber.
So rotary inputs are allowed?My bad. I thought that was exactly what you claimed in this statement:
Sure, I guess. I'm just thinking you're going to wind up having to make abrupt, jerky changes of direction on the theoretical inflexible, no-sidecut skis, and not be able to make a round turn.So rotary inputs are allowed?
Man - I really wish they showed him making any kind of normal turn, rather than just park and pipe stuff.WATCH: Skiing On Homemade 2x4 Skis
If you've spent anytime in the carpentry trade the thought screwing your ski binding into a 2x4 has probably crossed your mind. Well Josh Wong actuallywww.google.com
Yeah pretty worthless. You can actually buy rail skis that have no metal edges.Man - I really wish they showed him making any kind of normal turn, rather than just park and pipe stuff.