Well this trail looks "fun"

[Josh Matta]

 

[Philpug]

Pretty cool but it reminds me how slow I ride, LOL.

 

[Josh Matta]

yeah to be fair there is not a single pugskier who would ride this trail let alone ride it at the speed of this KOM.

[URL]https://www.strava.com/segments/18135980?fbclid=IwAR0MMBhqCK2_uaF7GcqWx-HUv5B8ssG7GHxSG2R2DJB2LeMEs-M3NTcddeU[/URL]

the average pitch is 22 percent. With many point over 30 and the crux move being at 47 percent. 47 percent is crazy. My guess is most people never descend at 22 percent let alone average 22 percent for an entire pitch.

To put in perspective the scariest thing I ride some what regularly has an average pitch 19 percent and tops out at 35 percent. Going as slow as I can go down it still feels too fast.

https://www.strava.com/activities/1094560337/segments/26943548292

its also laughable short compared to Cop killer.

 

[KevinF]

the average pitch is 22 percent. With many point over 30 and the crux move being at 47 percent. 47 percent is crazy

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What is Smuggler's Notch (i.e, the road) at its steepest points? 25% or so?

I've descended Hurricane Mountain Road (between North Conway, NH and NothingVille, ME). That felt suicidal; I think the sign up top there says 17% for a mile or so?

 

[Tricia]

yeah to be fair there is not a single pugskier who would ride this trail

I know of at least one Pugski member who is a pro rider.
I'm guessing he'd ride it

 

[Philpug]

yeah to be fair there is not a single pugskier who would ride this trail.

And you know this how? Please, lets not regress and make blanket statements like this.

 

[Josh Matta]

I know of at least one Pugski member who is a pro rider.
I'm guessing he'd ride it

Id bet money. Not trying to be a jerk. These pitches would be steep to ski, MTBing them with out getting off is something I am guessing a couple thousand people in the world could do and not one of those people post here. unless he is pro enduro or pro DH or Pro freerider they are not riding this, if you mean Dawgcatching....not a chance. He would literally die. I would actually bet money he would die and I would never want him to ride it, it would damage his road career...and honestly he would never attempt to ride this. So curious who is the pro Enduro rider that would ride this on pugski?

I think you guys dont get how tech ,steep the fall exposure this trail is.


honestly PM the person the video and strava segement. If they are truly great maybe they rode it. I think its telling on strava 79 people have rode Cop Killer, where as the majority of trails in pemberton have anywhere from 2500-3500 riders on them. its a marked on a map sanctioned trail. I am guessing there is a reason only 79 people on strava have rode it.

 

[Josh Matta]

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What is Smuggler's Notch (i.e, the road) at its steepest points? 25% or so?

I've descended Hurricane Mountain Road (between North Conway, NH and NothingVille, ME). That felt suicidal; I think the sign up top there says 17% for a mile or so?

Using strava Steepest pitch in the notch road is 11 percent..... averages 6 percent from Jeff and about 8 percent from stowe.

 

[Josh Matta]

Well I know of one Dude. Marshall, but even then I am not sure he would ride all of it.

 

[Erik Timmerman]

Josh, re: percent grade, Notch tops out at 24%. I've been flagging lot of trail this year and am taking great interest in grades, so just as an example, the climb up the double track in Strawberry Hill Farm has pitches of 30%. I'll bet that the descent on Sphincter hits 30 (though I haven't measured). The new trail above Kimmer's hits 18-20% a few times. 47% - that's crazy, but I'd bet you've ridden cool down or two that approaches that. Not saying Cop Killer is easy or that I could do it. Just saying the grades aren't what you think.

 

[Erik Timmerman]

 

[Tricia]

Any idea what kind of pitches are on this?

 

[Erik Timmerman]

Here's (part of) the World Cup DH track at Mont Sainte Anne. Apparently Greg Minnaar has a Strava account.

https://www.strava.com/segments/7864132

 

[Tricia]

Here's (part of) the World Cup DH track at Mont Sainte Anne. Apparently Greg Minnaar has a Strava account.

https://www.strava.com/segments/7864132

The member here that I was thinking about just completed the Transalp. @RonShev
He used to race single speed.
I looked up his Strava for shits and giggles and this is the snapshot of our side by side comparison. Its humbling to say the least.
His is on the right, mine left - just in case you wondered

 

[Erik Timmerman]

 

[Josh Matta]

You confuse pro pedaling with pro bike handling Ron isn’t known for his technical riding skill

 

[Wilhelmson]

Better check your brakes and life insurance before that one.

 

[blackke17]

That is one nasty looking trail!

 

[oldschoolskier]

When I was younger and still had a warranty on the body, I’d give it a go, now I understand the consequences of an error and I’ll pass.

 

[Josh Matta]

yeah you wouldnt.......