Colorado Vail Resorts Improving Snowmaking for Early Season Openings

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  1. Ken_R

    Ken_R Living the Dream Skier

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    jmeb Stereotypical Front Range Weekend Warrior Skier

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    Cool. Less people at Loveland.
     
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    Wilhelmson Out on the slopes Skier

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    It's very irksome to pay a few thousand for season passes for a bad snow year and the management only has 2 or 3 guns running.
     
  4. James

    James Skiing the powder Instructor

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    Good, gets people away from Abasin and Loveland. I suppose they'll get Mikaela to go to Keystone or Vail?
     
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    James Skiing the powder Instructor

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    Doug Briggs Skiing the powder Industry Insider Pugski Ski Tester

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    Where does that happen?
     
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    Doug Briggs Skiing the powder Industry Insider Pugski Ski Tester

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    While the Basin is still on the VR pass, the 'lines' on Breck's upper mountain terrain have been pretty much non-existent during the late season. Next year will really tell how many ponied up for a Basin pass vs staying straight VR.
     
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    I suspect she'll still ski both Loveland and Abasin given that Abasin is no longer on the Epic Pass. As far as I know her brother is still coaching for the race team at Loveland.
     
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    Wilhelmson Out on the slopes Skier

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    Some places in the northeast. But it's getting better with the high efficiency guns. Even Cannon.
     
  11. James

    James Skiing the powder Instructor

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    Last Nov Killington had 135 guns just on one trail, Superstar. Of course the wcup had something to do with that. Still, I've seen them make snow on that trail when it was snowing in March.
     
  12. Nathanvg

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    Spending big money on snow making at big western ski areas never made much sense to me. If the trip is relying on snow making, the conditions are going to be poor. If you're locked into a trip and going anyway, is it better to have 10 runs open instead of 3? I suppose but I'd argue both are pretty bad.

    If it's the worst xmas in 50 years, will snow making save the day? No, it will be a zoo. Worse yet, the lift tickets will be a lot more expensive EVERY year to pay for it. Plus all the snow making infrastructure is there all year every year making a natural environment feel like an industrial zone.

    Snow making has it's place. Mid-west and eastern ski areas have much more inconsistent weather and need it. Western ski areas always have a few trouble spots that lose snow cover which is a good use of snow making.
     
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    Sure, like booking a trip to Disneyworld in hurricane season. Either way Vail is installing more snowmaking for the same reason we need it in the northeast. Makes some sense, if there's snow at higher elevations but not as much at the base they can alleviate crowding and attract more crowds.

    From the article:
    Nearly 200 acres of new and enhanced snowmaking terrain will provide guests with earlier access to higher-elevation terrain, top-to-bottom skiing/ snowboarding, access from two base areas and improved early-season ski school terrain.
     
  14. James

    James Skiing the powder Instructor

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    You don't even need natural snow in many eastern resorts. I'd take consistent cold and no snow over snow then rain, then repeat. Esp in December.
     
  15. Bill Miles

    Bill Miles Old Man Groomer Zoomer Skier

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    It sure makes sense at a low snow resort such as Sun Valley, which barely opened in 1976-77 prior to extensive snowmaking. Early season is admittedly only a few runs, but they are top to bottom, and Sun Valley is admittedly not typical of large western resorts. Snowmaking is expensive, but it is difficult to tell its effect on lift tickets prices, since Sun Valley financials are not public, ticket prices are competive with other large resorts with less snowmaking, and supply and demand may affect prices more than costs do.
     

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