Just received the Kastle MX89 with attack 13 bindings I purchased off of Ebay. Looking at this thread it took me a whopping 5 minutes to properly adjust them. Thanks to all who contributed information to make this task a simple one.
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Tyrolia Attack 13 Demo Bindings Adjustment Thread
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You took a beer break, didntcha?
Do non-demo Attack brakes work on the demo models?
No, it is a different heel design.
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I'm having a bit of an issue setting up the AFD on the Attack 13 demos. I set it up just right, pop the boots out, pop them back in, and they have become tighter already.
The front screws are moving the plate through the entire range, front to back. And, as far as I can tell, the plate itself has not moved much forward or backward between boot presses. But, the gap seems to be changing with every new press. It is usually becoming tighter with each press -- from a business card being able to slide in with just a bit of friction to it not being able to enter at all. The boot sole looks fine and flat. I do have the demos five clicks ahead of the line (2.5 cm / 1 inch forward), but that shouldn't affect the AFD?
The front screws are moving the plate through the entire range, front to back. And, as far as I can tell, the plate itself has not moved much forward or backward between boot presses. But, the gap seems to be changing with every new press. It is usually becoming tighter with each press -- from a business card being able to slide in with just a bit of friction to it not being able to enter at all. The boot sole looks fine and flat. I do have the demos five clicks ahead of the line (2.5 cm / 1 inch forward), but that shouldn't affect the AFD?
Start with an even reference, put the boot in the binding, pull the cuff back then check height.
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That was it, thank you.
Old thread, I know but I’m having the same issue and would love some detail as to exactly how you resolved this. Thanks.
Which issue are you having?
The one which speedster describes and you offer a brief solution. Could you expand on that a bit?
Make sure the binding is set to the right boot length. To check toe height. Put boot in binding with a .5mm card, ie thin plastic credit card, between the boot lug and the AFD. Pull the cuff of the boot back, thus will pull the toe lug upward against the top of the lug. With the card between the boot and the binding, there should be resistance if you try to slide the card. If the card slides easily or slides out with no resistance, AFD needs to be adjusted tighter. If the card does not move at all and has to be forced, the AFD needs to be loosened. Screw to tighten and loosen the AFD is on the front of the binding.
Excellent detail. Thank you very much!
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Brace the ski with one hand and pull the cuff of the boot back hard. For some reason it can take a reasonable amount of force to pull the toe lug upward against the top of the toe cup, and you do not want to learn this the hard way.
How about lateral movement on the toe pieces? My Attack13 demo bindings have about 0.5 , maybe 1 mm of play between the rail and the binding (the binding being a little wider than seemingly needed). So I can wobble the front of the binding a bit. If feels like a tighter fit would allow for better control of the ski. Is that right? Is there anything that could be done? Thanks much!
The toe piece on Attack13 demos does have a tiny bit of play when there's no boot in the binding.
There's no play at all when you lock down a boot (at least in my two pairs of skis with A13 demos).
There's no play at all when you lock down a boot (at least in my two pairs of skis with A13 demos).
I think there are 2 competing terms here
one is play where there should be none with the boot in.
Vs . elasticity and how much distance the binding may give under pressure before it hits the release points. So when you hit a death cookie that is unmovable and therefore infinite force, but only a small distance, it doesnt just immediately transfer all the energy into your leg, nor eject you since that exceeds the newtonmeter binding limit.
The wobble is more about the elasticity and how much the binding will move/bend a bit before ejecting.
The wobble is also an alignment thing so it can conform and bind to imperfect boots
one is play where there should be none with the boot in.
Vs . elasticity and how much distance the binding may give under pressure before it hits the release points. So when you hit a death cookie that is unmovable and therefore infinite force, but only a small distance, it doesnt just immediately transfer all the energy into your leg, nor eject you since that exceeds the newtonmeter binding limit.
The wobble is more about the elasticity and how much the binding will move/bend a bit before ejecting.
The wobble is also an alignment thing so it can conform and bind to imperfect boots
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I believe mine don't wobble. I think my knee wobbles more that 1 mm.
AFD might not be properly adjusted.
AFD might not be properly adjusted.
Thank you Jim! That does it! I just tested with the boot on, and it's rock solid! No play at all, here, either. Thanks a lot!
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