Tyrolia Adrenaline 13

[markojp]

I'm looking to add a wide ski to my quiver for deeper snow when traveling west because I have friends & family that ski off piste regularly and I'd like to join them. I'm thinking of mounting the Tyrolia Adrenalin 13 so I can skin with them and I love my Attacks 13's.

My question is if I don't get off piste as much as I hope will I be disappointed with these when skiing inbounds? The stand height is almost twice the Attack...

Yes, the stack height isn't a winner. Unless you're skinning, why a touring binding at all? If you do want a tour functioning binding, as Phil said, the Salomon/Atomic shift is the clear cut choice. It's a frame binding killer. For tromping around in the MI woods, I'd just get an NNN BC or 3 pin teley set up and call it good.

 

[David]

The Adrenaline is near the equivalent to a Marker Duke - overbuilt, bomber, huge dead spot as @Mike Thomas points out well. I actually heard a rumor that it’s been slated for retirement several times, yet keeps returning.

The Ambition is lighter, but tall & flexy. My biggest grip is that it’s very tippy due to its height & at my 145 pounds, is hard to pivot/smear. It’s almost 4 cm above the deck. That said- the Ambition has 3 climbing levels & is quite good at the ups. The other issue being so tall is that the ski feels heavy due to the extended moment arm.

I've pretty much decided against a frame binding. I also can't do a tech boot until Daleboot figures out how to add a tech toe to thier VFF Pro. I'll either use snowshoes or try the DayMakers if I don't like the snowshoe option.

 

[EricG]

@David - there is always CAST to retrofit your toe piece.

https://casttouring.com/products/ski-boot-conversion

I have NO experience with them. But they were suggested to me by a tech at a local shop.

 

[David]

@David - there is always CAST to retrofit your toe piece.

https://casttouring.com/products/ski-boot-conversion

I have NO experience with them. But they were suggested to me by a tech at a local shop.

I saw that. The DalaBoot toe piece is unique and Daleboot says a tech implant isn't possible. I sent Cast an email to see if they've had success with Daleboot if they have then I definitely will try it.

 

[EricG]

I saw that. The DalaBoot toe piece is unique and Daleboot says a tech implant isn't possible. I sent Cast an email to see if they've had success with Daleboot if they have then I definitely will try it.

Also shoot PJ at RaceStock a text. I recall seeing a boot on the counter there last year that he has retrofitted Tec inserts. Their ph# is: (802) 578-3585

 

[James]

Josh has tech inserts in his Alpine Dalbello. Even set in at his 4 degree cant angle. PJ at RaceStock Sports did it.

 

[David]

Josh has tech inserts in his Alpine Dalbello. Even set in at his 4 degree cant angle. PJ at RaceStock Sports did it.

But Daleboots do not have a normal toe.

 

[James]

But Daleboots do not have a normal toe.

Fair enough. PJ is not a normal guy.
But sounds like you need an AT boot that fits. Only so much kluging one can do.

 

[Wendy]

I've pretty much decided against a frame binding. I also can't do a tech boot until Daleboot figures out how to add a tech toe to thier VFF Pro. I'll either use snowshoes or try the DayMakers if I don't like the snowshoe option.

I have done the snowshoe option, and it worked great.....the snowshoes I used gave me confidence on an icy, steep, long uphill. I used these:
https://www.rei.com/product/120296/msr-revo-explore-snowshoes

If you’re doing this inbounds I would imagine snowshoes clipped to the outside of a pack would be a pain.

 

[David]

I reached out to Cast and I'm going to text PJ tomorrow to see if either has been able to put the inserts in Daleboot with success.

 

[David]

I have done the snowshoe option, and it worked great.....the snowshoes I used gave me confidence on an icy, steep, long uphill. I used these:
https://www.rei.com/product/120296/msr-revo-explore-snowshoes

If you’re doing this inbounds I would imagine snowshoes clipped to the outside of a pack would be a pain.

I've used my snowshoes at home and they do work fine. But yah if we use any lifts they wouldn't be fun. And my snowshoes are pretty long since I'm not one of those tiny 150 pound guys!

 

[Philpug]

Daleboot is rebranding the old BD green 130 AT boot so I never see tehm investing in soles for their VFF shells.

 

[David]

Daleboot is rebranding the old BD green 130 AT boot so I never see tehm investing in soles for their VFF shells.

I was looking at it last fall. It's the AK130 and it's not a full custom boot so I'd have to have it fit like any off the shelf boot and I've never had good luck with that. I did get 1 pair to fit where I could leave them on for almost 2 hours if I unbuckled at the chair and the lines were short. In 40+ years I made a few boot fitters cry and got my money back mire than a few times when fitters gave up. I used "the best" fitters I could find and get to from Jackson to CO and MI. With my Daleboots I can buckle and unbukle at the car and they ski as well as anything I've ever skied. I'm too old to ever buy anything other than a full custom Daleboot again!

 

[David]

Update - I spoke with Cast & JP about adding tech inserts on a DaleBoot and they both say it's not possible since its not a solid toe. Looks like my only good option is the DayMaker.

Thanks for everyone's input!