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The B...B...Bad Ski Purchase Thread.

Lorenzzo

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What percentage of your ski purchases did you end up regretting? Don't just estimate, do the calculation if you can remember.

Which were the most regretted?

Me: 7/26 = .269 x 100 = 27%

Most regretted:
2013-14 Volkl RTM 81
2013-14 Blizzard Cochise
 

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Err, not the easiest calculation in the world. I've bought a lot of skis over the years. Using a notepad I was able to think of 88 specific pairs.

Most regretted, in rough but approximately correct order:
2005 Salomon Xtra Hot
2005 Fischer Airstyle
1998 Elan PSX
1998? Head Cyber 24X
2012 Coreupt Oneiric
2007 Elan MO2.2
2004? Blizzard Sigma XXL
2008 G3 Reverend
? Bluehouse MR2

+ 5 pairs of no-name Czech XC skis I got as part of an auction, probably made by Sporten but who really knows

So, counting the XC sticks as one purchase, 10/88 = 11.36 %
 

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There has been a few, not many though and all were at least a decade ago. The one that always comes to mind were a pair of Atomic Bionic Team HV6 RS, late 80's. It didn't know it it wanted to be be a damp SL or a nervous GS ski. Hated that ski. Graphics were soo.. 80's though.
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Google photo for reference.
 

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%? Not too many considering how many skis I go through, but two that stand out in my mind are:

2002(?) Atomic BetaCarrve 8.20. My gosh, that ski could do one and only one turn radius, and was completely horrible on ice. Turned me off Atomics for a decade until I got on the Access a few seasons ago.

Dynastar Sultan. After having more than a few pairs of 8000's and Mythic Riders (and XXL's), and loving every turn, out came the Sultans. Tried to even like them for 2 days then got rid of them.
 

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Speaking of bad skis... @cantunamunch do you still have those Elan Stealths I sent you?
 

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I still have a pair of 45mm waist Elan Predators, if that's what you're asking - but I think your pair wound up in other hands? These still have the original chintzy Salomons - and I don't dare redrill because there's no room for holes on those lifters.

I actually quite like the skis and I'm seriously considering rebuilding the lifters soon.

Talking of wack skis - remember those Fels Trinetics where the sidecut was mismatched to the camber?
 

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Hart Pros, probably 1963.
1972? Sohler somethings
But I really have no idea how many skis I've owned, maybe 25?
Bad boot purchases far outnumber bad ski purchases.
 
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Well not that many. What comes ti mind is the Soloman Street racer 10. It was silver. Just an incredibly boring ski.
Then there was a Rossi Cx ? Mostly black, roughly 96-7 that was sort of shaped but not really. By the time I was going to mount it the next season I didn't even want to. Sold it to a patroller I met on the trail at Sugarloaf. Told him I had a pair in the closet, did he want another? $25. Just shipped him to him and he sent me the money with some stickers.

Then there were the race stock Volkl P40's in 198 i bought. Those were new old stock. Maybe 2000 vintage and bought the next season for cheap. Absurdly stiff in the middle. Full laminate ski. Never mounted them. Originally i wanted them to try super g but as time went on even if that was going to happen they were a bad choice. Sold them to a guy in Belgium.

Rossi Cs70 - great ski, lousy binding interface that had serious performance drawbacks.
 

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Those Elan race skis that stenmark had... I'm quite sure his were very different. :)

184 Rossi T-4 teley ski. Length mistake. Shorter one sucked.

Gen 1 BD Zealot, the brown cow.. Planks.

One of the early Head monster fat skis. Stiff, no sidecut, etc... The only ski I've ever been on including DH skis that truly scared me.
 

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A pair of forward-mounted powder skis in 164. Skis were fine; length was, um, not right.
 

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In terms of percentages, choosing really bad skis for me is rather low.

Back in the 1997 (maybe 1998), I got back into ski racing at the club level. I bought a pair of Elan MBX SL race skis. I think that they were the 193 length. I could not get them to hold an edge well. I tried different edge bevel profiles, but those did not work.

Interesting enough, I tried an experiment suggested by the regional Elan rep. That was to ski on a 163 SCX Monoblock shaped ski in slalom. At the time, I turned screws for him at demo events. So I took a pair out to a competition, and finished very well.

The next year, short slalom skis were everywhere.

Dennis
 

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Worse ski purchase for me: Head Jimi's, 171cm in length, 110 underfoot. Unless I was in a wide open bowl with fresh two feet of powder , there is no way this ski would do anything for me. Well,unless i magically grew 6 inches & put on 30 pounds.

It seemed like a good idea at the time.....
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Seems as though I lead the group in regretted ski purchases. When I got back into the sport a couple of years ago I was cut off from info and relied on reviews. Thus the Cochise and RTM-s which were my worst buys.The Cochise aren't awful, there are just better choices for me. The RTM-s however I learned to truly dislike when I got more caught up on current technique.

I work with a guy who likes the RTM-s for when he's teaching little ones and is doing snow plows all day. I gave mine to him.
 

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Some of my less successful skis in 55 years of skiing:

Early 60's--Several pairs of cheap wooden skis with screw on edges, cable bindings and a plastic base (not ptex) that would barely last a season. They actually sold stuff back then for DIY base reapplication.
Early 60's--Hart Pros with an anodized base (I was looking for durability after previous experience) that could not absorb wax or take a structure. Actually not too bad on cold snow, but real bad in the spring.
Mid 70's--Rossi 255 soft. First fiberglass ski, a revelation on how easy to turn, but I learned that stories I heard about fiberglass skis not bending were untrue.
Mid 90's--Rossi Mountain Viper 9.3's--First venture into a mildly shaped skis (others I demoed where too turny or unstable at speed.) Fine on Colorado or Utah softish snow, but wouldn't hold an edge on Sun Valley steep hardpack, even with a fresh tune.
 

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Only 1 out of 36. That's 2.8% - Not too bad. I usually demo my skis so not too many blind dates.

The standout (if you can call it that) is a pair of 2009 Atomic Blackeye. Just fell thru the crack in my quiver. Skied it for only 2 days.
 

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My worst ski choice wasn't a purchase. It was a hand me down that I insisted on having.

See, I was in college and my first pair of skis were hand me down K2 Gyrators from my boyfriend. I think they were 160cm or something like that - incredibly short. I loved them. But when my boyfriend upgraded again, some time in the mid to late 90s, I wanted his old pair of skis. I was a solid low intermediate - an ungroomed black at Solitude brought me to tears - but felt confident that I should get his 190cm skis, which were Atomic Arcs of some sort (yellow, I remember they were yellow). He told me they were too long and stiff for me (shush), but I knew that better skiers skied longer skis, and I was sure I was a pretty good skier.

There followed several years of really searing Z-turns into my skiing repertoire. I would be super fast for about two turns, then freak out and ski the rest of the mountain at a snail's pace, Z to shining Z. But hey, I was skiing long skis like the advanced skier I knew I was!

I think the penny finally dropped when a class at Sunday River had us demo some new shaped Volkls, back when Ski magazine was talking about how shaped skis were a crutch for weak skiers. Gee, thanks, Ski. The instructor convinced me to get on something really short, and I swear I did a complete circle when I initiated a turn on a green. (This may be my memory playing tricks.) I did finally buy shaped skis - but they were 178 K2 Powers. Those weren't bad, but they should have been shorter.
 

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Atomic 9.22 HC Beta Ride. I thought I loved them so I bought two pairs, one for Alpine and one for Tele. I don't remember getting that much use out of them. I think other skis came along that caught my eye soon after.
 

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I think every ski I bought (maybe 8 pairs) from the time I started skiing in 1981 until I finally got some instruction in 1992 or 93 was likely a bad choice (for me).
Since then the only buy I'd call bad was picking up a used pair of Mythic Riders that turned out to be so skied-to-death they wouldn't hold an edge on anything remotely hard-packed -- cost me a couple of days off with a back sprain when they suddenly went sideways 20 feet, halfway down Limelight at Sun Valley.
 

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Hahahaha.....

I'd say I may lead the pack here, but then I love gear & expirimenting:

My 3 Bbbbad camps:

1) These are cheap- example: 185 Scott Pow Air w tons of early rise & absent sidewalls- just some foam on the side. What could go wrong on the ice coast?!

2) Mounted em up wrong- example(s) 2003 uber tall race bindings on 99mm skis. Not only are they tippy, but kill my knees!!! 2014- yea just mtn on the line.... That's 5 inches behind rest of quiver- 2015 remount!

3) I'm a visionary!! What could go wrong gas pedaling a 285mm shell by 12mm?! Actually skied w Phil w these- shovels engage---> nothing else!
 

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