SIA/OR 2018: Reports from the Floor

[Eric Edelstein]

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@Eric Edelstein on the hill today with the new DPS foundations

Stay tuned for reviews of the 1018-2019 Cassiar Foundation 82 and 87 from an East coast perspective....we've had some superb porcelain-coated concrete surfaces here in Vermont for many days of testing to reveal the true personalities and capabilities of these $799 msrp offerings from DPS. We also have some soft-snow observations to share as well.

We are curious to hear what people think about these skis from the SIA Demo Days out west.

 

[YolkyPalky]

Hi Phil,

From your live video when you were at the Head booth, regarding the SuperShape series, I believe you said "New Graphic Technology" when mentioning them. Is that basically a fancy way of saying no real changes to the line for 2019 except for what looks like more color splash on the ski? Thanks!

 

[Jilly]

I thought he said Graphene....guess I'll watch again.

 

[YolkyPalky]

I thought he said Graphene....guess I'll watch again.

I was going to ask in my post if he said "Graphene or Graphic", certainly Graphene would make sense, although it's not really new anymore. But I think I heard "Graphic", probably a nice way of saying nothing new here except the topsheet design, which would make sense with the "Why fix what isn't broken" line that followed.

 

[DanoT]

I was going to ask in my post if he said "Graphene or Graphic", certainly Graphene would make sense, although it's not really new anymore. But I think I heard "Graphic", probably a nice way of saying nothing new here except the topsheet design, which would make sense with the "Why fix what isn't broken" line that followed.

The 2018 Head Kore skis don't actually have a top sheet and hence the muted graphics.

I was skiing a demo Kore 93 the other day during a snow storm with 25cm of cut up snow that fell the day before. The temps were just below freezing but the snow was still fairly dry. However snow stuck to the top of the ski in a thick coating. It kinda defeated the super light weight feature of these skis, so hopefully Head has some sort of solution or I might have to wax both sides of my Kore 93s that I will be buying next season . Actually I am seriously thinking that an Armourall or car polish type product might work on the top surface.

 

[YolkyPalky]

The 2018 Head Kore skis don't actually have a top sheet and hence the muted graphics.

I was skiing a demo Kore 93 the other day during a snow storm with 25cm of cut up snow that fell the day before. The temps were just below freezing but the snow was still fairly dry. However snow stuck to the top of the ski in a thick coating. It kinda defeated the super light weight feature of these skis, so hopefully Head has some sort of solution or I might have to wax both sides of my Kore 93s that I will be buying next season . Actually I am seriously thinking that an Armourall or car polish type product might work on the top surface.

Good point about the Kore, but we were talking about the SuperShape line, referencing Phil's comments about the 2019 SuperShapes.

 

[Tytlynz64]

question re: the New cassiar 82 vs Old
Is it stiffer?
is it $600 better than the old one?

 

[Cheizz]

The Head Supershapes have had Graphene in them for the past two seasons. For 2019, new graphics only.

 

[Muleski]

NGT is Phil's method of saying cosmetic changes to the topsheets only. No change to the actual ski{s}.

 

[Tricia]

The 2018 Head Kore skis don't actually have a top sheet and hence the muted graphics.

The Kore is....the Core

 

[Shawn C.]

The 2018 Head Kore skis don't actually have a top sheet and hence the muted graphics.

I was skiing a demo Kore 93 the other day during a snow storm with 25cm of cut up snow that fell the day before. The temps were just below freezing but the snow was still fairly dry. However snow stuck to the top of the ski in a thick coating. It kinda defeated the super light weight feature of these skis, so hopefully Head has some sort of solution or I might have to wax both sides of my Kore 93s that I will be buying next season . Actually I am seriously thinking that an Armourall or car polish type product might work on the top surface.

Interesting observation. Anyone else had a problem with this?

 

[Andy Mink]

Stay tuned for reviews of the 1018-2019 Cassiar Foundation 82 and 87 from an East coast perspective....we've had some superb porcelain-coated concrete surfaces here in Vermont for many days of testing to reveal the true personalities and capabilities of these $799 msrp offerings from DPS. We also have some soft-snow observations to share as well.

We are curious to hear what people think about these skis from the SIA Demo Days out west.

I've been on the 87s several times so far this year and think DPS has done a great job slotting between the 82 and the new 94. As an advanced intermediate I appreciate that the ski isn't overly demanding when you do something wrong but really lights up when you do it right. Very capable in a variety of conditions.

 

[DanoT]

Now that I think of it, I have skied both the Head Kore 105 and Kore 93 in light dry snow with little or no snow top surface build up. So I am thinking that it was just as specific air and snow temp combination that resulted in the snow sticking to the skis.

 

[James]

The 2018 Head Kore skis don't actually have a top sheet and hence the muted graphics

Of course they have a top sheet. I skied a day with @Drahtguy Kevin when he was on the 105's. Slush to damp powderish. Don't recall snow sticking to the top.

 

[DanoT]

Of course they have a top sheet. I skied a day with @Drahtguy Kevin when he was on the 105's. Slush to damp powderish. Don't recall snow sticking to the top.

No top sheet at least not in the traditional sense.

I think Tricia nailed it:

The Kore is....the Core

 

[Philpug]

question re: the New cassiar 82 vs Old
Is it stiffer?
is it $600 better than the old one?

Yes and yes. The outgoing F82 is a nice ski....lets just say it has a good personality. The new one is muuuch beefier and more serious.

 

[Tytlynz64]

Lol. How come I knew that would be the case.

 

[dbostedo]

Was anything on the floor truly surprising or weird?

 

[epicentre]

Were there any changes to the Armada lineup besides NGT, specifically the Invictus and Tracer series? Any word on how they're selling, because they're some fine skis.

 

[Philpug]

Were there any changes to the Armada lineup besides NGT, specifically the Invictus and Tracer series? Any word on how they're selling, because they're some fine skis.

No changes and they are selling well. You are correct, they are killer skis.