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Would I really notice an increase in glide with the Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide (mohair / nylon mix)? and not loose that much in grip?
My go to has been the Black Diamond Ascension (full nylon) for the Eastern Sierra
I'm sure the Pomoca's would be lighter and not as stiff as the BDs.
 

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Would I really notice an increase in glide with the Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide (mohair / nylon mix)? and not loose that much in grip?
My go to has been the Black Diamond Ascension (full nylon) for the Eastern Sierra
I'm sure the Pomoca's would be lighter and not as stiff as the BDs.
I don't believe I would be able to tell the difference, unless I had a BD on one ski and the Pomoca on the other maybe. I do have a set of Dynafit branded Pomocas that are lighter than my BD, G3, and Geckos, but a lot of the savings is in the attachment hardware, they do fold/roll easier as well.
 

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I don't believe I would be able to tell the difference, unless I had a BD on one ski and the Pomoca on the other maybe. I do have a set of Dynafit branded Pomocas that are lighter than my BD, G3, and Geckos, but a lot of the savings is in the attachment hardware, they do fold/roll easier as well.
If you can tell a difference when you have one on one ski and another on the other, then there is a difference which will be significant over a few hours of skinning.
 

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Speaking of skins, would a DPS Wailer 99 be a poor ski for skinning due to rocker and tapers? For some short skinning. 15-60min.

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so would a 130 be Ok on the Praxis's 138 tip?
Yes. Most of the grip will come from the center 1/3 of the ski and a bit back. The front 1/3 of the ski doesnt do much when going uphill. I have even used skins narrower than the skis (100mm wide skins on a 112mm wide ski) and they worked well enough. When cutting the skins make sure you have the metal edge exposed throughout. That will help you not slide out when skinning on steeper, icier slopes. Also technique is key, avoid bending too far forward, put more pressure on your heels. Kinda the opposite of downhill skiing.
 
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Would I really notice an increase in glide with the Pomoca Climb Pro S-Glide (mohair / nylon mix)? and not loose that much in grip?
My go to has been the Black Diamond Ascension (full nylon) for the Eastern Sierra
I'm sure the Pomoca's would be lighter and not as stiff as the BDs.
My 2Cents is you would notice a big increase in glide if you went to a pure mohair skin. You will loose a little grip as well. I have a BD glidelight mix mohair skin (65% mohair, 35% nylon) that I don't think glides well, but they do have more than enough grip. I read and emailed the blister boys and they said that glide/grip is similar between similar construction skins. And grip/glide change in opposite directions. Pure mohair best glide and nylon worst glide, mix inbetween.

I tried a friends skins, I think they were a mixed skin, but I wasn't sure, and it definitely glided better than mine, but had a little less grip too. Personally, I want the best glide with at least decent grip I can get = pure Mohair. These will be the less tiring skins to use, and I am not in great shape so I need the lowest resistance skin I can get. I am going to get Pomoca Climp Pro or Race Pro skins.

Width of skin effects grip/glide as well. You can size by mid point width, tail width, or tip width. They all work, but the more skin, the less glide and the more grip. I am going to go with tail width or mid width skins. I have 108 mm mid width skis, which are pretty wide. My BD Glidelight skins are tip width and have more grip than I need. I might cut them narrower to improve glide, but they do work well on ice, so if my second pair of skins are high glide, I will probably be covered.
 

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I just ordered Marker Frame bindings to skin up our 1,000 foot mountain in the East.

I'm thinking grip will be the most important for me being new to this with heavyish bindings.

Would the G3 Alpinist Grip be a better choice than the Scala? In general is that a good way for me to go? Or as a beginner would I be better with the Universal model to have better glide encouraging better technique?
 

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One thing I have mentioned to the newb resort skinners is that if the season does not actually start, normally with snowmaking and grooming, it won't resemble the end of last year. Covid caveat. If we had to rely on just natural snowfall here without augmentation there wouldn't be much base below 8k and that means I would have to travel to ski. "The horror." Colonel Kurtz (Brando) Apocalypse Now
 
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I ordered the G3 Alpinist Universals. Also ordered Marker F12 Tour Frame bindings so I can (for now) use my existing boots, and change over to different skis after skinning.
 
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I live :15 from a 1,000 foot intermediate mountain. Ski there many weekday mornings per season. Great group of older people there. A couple of them that I know skin up and ski a lap (or sometimes 2) before the lifts spin.

My plan is to join them and then ski lift served the rest of the morning.

My wife hasn't been interested in skiing at this mountain (too boring for her) but is interested in getting some exercise in the mornings so is willing to join me many mornings. So I bought the same gear for her.

Next step is finding skis for both of us as there's nothing in our quivers to mount those bindings on, but there will always be skis around to buy. I'm just worried that skins and bindings might get hard to find by Fall.
 
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You can still pick up Sali Shifts at Backcountry for 35% off plus Active Junky discounts.

 
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@Steve Powder7 has these! Scott Slight 93 with Shifts for $750. there are other AT setups practically new.


DPS Tour1 99's with Shifts. Not cheap enough for me but a good setup.
 
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