Did anyone say it did need to be reapplied?
It shouldn't need to be reapplied unless the original application was done incorrectly. I haven't used 2.0 but the 1.0 on my wife's skis still works well as does my son's. He is on one of the original test bed skis from DPS. Granted, their days per year are not huge and other skis or boards are used too.Then why would it EVER have to be reapplied. Is it good for 500 ski days and say 15 grinds if someone's willing to push a ski that far? Would the Phantom 2.0 still be as good as it was the day after originally applied?
I honestly haven’t kept track of how many days this season, everything from powder to spring slush, all on one pair of skis with Phantom 2.0. No issues so far, except for glue-like conditions a couple weeks ago when things warmed up very quickly after several inches of fresh snow. Nothing was sliding on the flats.
Haven’t waxed at all. No base grinds so far, might have one done before the start of next season.
Phantom glides well on mt Hood spring corn snow. In true slush it sticks like a waxed ski.
Having done the application myself I can tell you that having a shop do it soup to nuts is likely the best way to go. Once you pay for a base grind … etc. plus spend $100 for the Phantom you are at basically the same price as what the shops charge for a complete package, also their cure will be better than a DIYFrom the discussion in the first many pages of this thread, I had doubts that I would want to tackle DIYing the application process. I found two shops with the cure station on my season's itinerary, The Mud Room in Jackson Hole in December and Jackson's Base Camp in Park City in March and called ahead for prices. For me, at least, it seemed that the $50 labor charge was a no brainer. There may have been a time when a younger self would have thought that there was potentially $50 in entertainment value in doing the application myself, but that day is long since past.
That might be stretching it, but worth trying if you "strategize" it. For example don't put any on the second pair without doing the first. I will say that if you have 2 packages of Phantom, there's definitely enough to do 3 pairs of skis, except for maybe very long and fat skis. I regret not realizing this after doing the first pair, could have used the left overs on a single ski, then same with the second package to finish the extra pair.I’ve seen here and other forums that one pack of Phantom could be enough to treat 2 pairs of narrower and slightly shorter skis. I’m looking to treat a pair of 169cm long 80mm wide skis and 165cm long 76mm wide skis. Will I have enough with one pack and any tips on the application process (apart from base grind, absolutely no wax in bases and adequate cure time with full sun)?
I am pretty sure my phantom 1.0 and 2.0 only had one pouch of each. Can anyone confirm this?I did 3 pair of skis with one box of Phantom 1.0 The box contains two pouches of "A" and two pouches of "B". There was plenty of product to cover 3 pair of skis, if you apply it carefully and slowly -- don't just dump it on and let it run off of the ski.
I am pretty sure my phantom 1.0 and 2.0 only had one pouch of each. Can anyone confirm this?
I am planning on applying Phantom to my skis tomorrow. I have 4 packages and plan to put it on two pair of skis..
I have been waxing over my skis with Phantom too as I find that provides the best overall performanceI have been running a few skis this Spring that have Phantom on them and it has been great, on par with a freshly yellow waxed ski...but when the yellow gets pulled off, the Phantom is still good.