Skiing the powder
- Dec 2, 2015
Find the peace within.Of course, I couldn't let that stand, so I had to ski Ramrod non-stop. I skied the bumps about 20% slower than I usually do. I made it without stopping and was about 50% less tired than I would have been at full tilt -- the slowdown effect is definitely non-linear. The speed was all I changed, skied a reasonably direct line just like the other runs. So the same line can be sustainable or not.
I was going to let it go since it would beating a dead horse. "Sustainable" mogul skiing from my POV has no meaning. Once you get in dialed in with your techniques, you start making lines you never thought was in your reach, and that goes with speed as well. Once that happens, it grows and you start looking for lines that pushes your limits.... its organic.A lot of what one learns in repetitive motion is beyond words and rather a result of getting in touch with our inner feelings. We bump skiers become familiar with the feelings of our proprioceptors, musculature, and balance so we don't need to think about those things because they flow out automatically.
Maybe I missed something, but I don't think anyone in this thread said that you don't have to put in the effort to learn how to do it. I wouldn't say anything about any "sustainable" bump skiing approaches takes out the work or learning. It's just focused on being lower impact or lower exertion.Somewhere along the way, you have to put in the effort to make consecutive low impact turns in the bumps, as Plake stated, you have to earn it.
We are in violent agreement for most of this. Looking back at the fundamental, the operative word is "control" -- there are many situations where good skiing requires some slip or drift, but great skiing comes with the ability to modulate edge angle at will in the midst of a turn. Many times I've decided to alter my line by "downshifting" and drifting to a lower line. It is a key skill, not only in the bumps, but in steeps and even in gates (think stivot).Absolutely. In "many" situations it is. Like if the snow is deep, I want my skis to glide almost completely along the length. Not to mention when I want to carve. In bumps though, a lot of times I want them to be a bit more sideways although rarely 90 degrees. Maybe like between 0 to 40 degrees? The secret is being able to modulate between that 0-40 degrees at will.
The problem is, this skill is hard, if not impossible, to see from outside. You can point out things like "hey your inside ski is too forward, pull your inside foot back" and things like that for carving turns or just about any turns. But it's kinda hard to point out what's wrong when a person is bit jerky doing, say, switch pivot slips. It's mostly very subtle edge and pressure control that you probably don't see.
So I said "unexplained" up there, but at the same time didn't say those videos are bad because, I can't really explain it myself, haha. I just did a bunch of drills and "got" it. If you or anybody here have a silver bullet in that, please share. By the way, I love HH's phantom foot method and think it is kind of a silver bullet in teaching people high quality turns. My feeling, which could definitely be wrong, though, is he doesn't like to do pivot slip variations all that much, and I think they help a lot especially in bumps, but at the same time like I said above, I understand that making my clients do them like a football coach probably doesn't work if I were an instructor.
Threads like this make me want to walk into the room with my hands on my hips and say...Moderators please close this thread.
I don't have the patience to repeated ask people to place "nice".