Rate the Turns 2

[Mike King]

So, @karlo, all you need, evidently, is a solid color Bogner outfit...

 

[karlo]

Another look at Classic Short Swing.

These are flexion turns??

 

[LiquidFeet]

No. Those are authentic Classic Short Swings. Clearly extension turns with a big pivot around the tip. Which is why I have been questioning Reilly's labeling of his super short turns as "Classic." They aren't.

 

[Mike King]

No. Those are authentic Classic Short Swings. Clearly extension turns with a big pivot around the tip. Which is why I have been questioning Reilly's labeling of his super short turns as "Classic." They aren't.

Except that's exactly what Reilly is doing in his classic short swing turns -- pivoting around the tip.

 

[karlo]

Except that's exactly what Reilly is doing in his classic short swing turns -- pivoting around the tip.

He discusses that. One of the drills for this turn is an unweighting of the tail. The drill has a name. Some German sounding name

 

[gwasson]

He discusses that. One of the drills for this turn is an unweighting of the tail. The drill has a name. Some German sounding name

wedeln

 

[JESinstr]

wedeln

Now there's a word I haven't heard in a long long time!
@karlo
Found this video. After 20 pages, this seems to concisely address your initial post with varied examples of both the good and the bad.

 

[karlo]

wedeln

I went back to the video. The exercise is a mini-steilhanger

 

[karlo]

Clearly extension turns with a big pivot around the tip.

At 0:55, the yellow suit on the right, is that a flexion turn?
The pivot around the tip, I think that's what Reilly called the Steilhanger

 

[Erik Timmerman]

You can find some "classic" short turns in this video.

 

[Steve]

Ha, you beat me by 15 minutes, I just started a thread with this as the subject!

 

[karlo]

You can find some "classic" short turns in this video.

wishing I still had my straight skis.

 

[Scruffy]

wishing I still had my straight skis.

I have one pair that hasn't found it's way the dumpster yet, a pair of Stockli race SL. I was going to take them out this year for grins and giggles, but...never happened

 

[karlo]

I have one pair that hasn't found it's way the dumpster yet, a pair of Stockli race SL. I was going to take them out this year for grins and giggles, but...never happened

Would be a blast. Those shaped skis, they’re such a pain,

''Going straight can be difficult on the shaped skis,''

''People are skiing slower and in more control with the new sidecut skis,''

and,

“a skier's improved turning ability is offset by the skis' potential to lock the skier in a groove” No wonder I’m having so much trouble with the Classic Swing Turn!

Caution Urged on New Shaped Skis (Published 1997)

Shaped skis are latest innovation in downhill skis; new skis, first introduced about three years ago, are beginning to draw skeptics; in question is whether skier's improved turning ability is offset by skis' potential to lock skier in groove that could cause injury; photo (M)

www.nytimes.com