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Any recommendations if I really liked the shape of the enforcer 104, but wanted something a little less stiff? I loved that it would plow through crud when on edge but pivot really easily when called for. That being said, it was a bit more demanding than I'd like.

The Rossignol Soul 7 HD was more in my wheelhouse in terms of stiffness I'd like, but its tip wanted so much to ride up and over rather than through. I think that's more a function of the shape than the stiffness. I'm not looking for a crudbuster, but want to have some ability to keep the ski on edge through crud. I thought the Atomic Backland 107 was up to the task, but found it's tail a bit too locked in for skiing powder. I definitely want something with a loose tail for pivoting through trees.

I'm looking a ski for soft snow days that's good at handling PNW snow, mostly skiing in the trees. I rarely do wide open faces these days. I currently use a Surface Live Free. I like the shape and stiffness, but I went a bit too long. So, either an Enforcer 104 that's not quite as stiff or a hybrid with the Backland 107 tip and Soul 7 tail.
I jsut skied an afternoon at Mammoth in some mid winter spring snow...it was cut up and kinda heavy. I was on the Liberty Genesis 106 and it was prtty darn playful for a strong ski. The taper in the tail allowed the ski to be worked but was there when I wanted it to follow the tip when I asked it to.
 

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Any recommendations if I really liked the shape of the enforcer 104, but wanted something a little less stiff? I loved that it would plow through crud when on edge but pivot really easily when called for. That being said, it was a bit more demanding than I'd like.

The Rossignol Soul 7 HD was more in my wheelhouse in terms of stiffness I'd like, but its tip wanted so much to ride up and over rather than through. I think that's more a function of the shape than the stiffness. I'm not looking for a crudbuster, but want to have some ability to keep the ski on edge through crud. I thought the Atomic Backland 107 was up to the task, but found it's tail a bit too locked in for skiing powder. I definitely want something with a loose tail for pivoting through trees.

I'm looking a ski for soft snow days that's good at handling PNW snow, mostly skiing in the trees. I rarely do wide open faces these days. I currently use a Surface Live Free. I like the shape and stiffness, but I went a bit too long. So, either an Enforcer 104 that's not quite as stiff or a hybrid with the Backland 107 tip and Soul 7 tail.

Curious about your size/ability and what length/binding you had on the 104’s you tried? The 104 is not a stiff ski but it’s not a light ski especially if you had demo bindings. Like most Nordica Enforcers from the factory, the tune could likely be edge high causing it to feel heavier and more work than it should have been. I find the flex in the 186cm (I’m 175 lbs) VERY forgiving and easy to ski yet flies through crud.
Thinking you might have been on too long of a ski, bindings heavier than you’re used to and/or tune is off.

The Rustler 10 comes to mind in a lighter/softer 104 but pales in comparison to the 104 through crud or at speed.
 

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Curious about your size/ability and what length/binding you had on the 104’s you tried? The 104 is not a stiff ski but it’s not a light ski especially if you had demo bindings. Like most Nordica Enforcers from the factory, the tune could likely be edge high causing it to feel heavier and more work than it should have been. I find the flex in the 186cm (I’m 175 lbs) VERY forgiving and easy to ski yet flies through crud.
Thinking you might have been on too long of a ski, bindings heavier than you’re used to and/or tune is off.

The Rustler 10 comes to mind in a lighter/softer 104 but pales in comparison to the 104 through crud or at speed.

I'm 5'7", 150 lbs. I've been skiing my whole life but I have a number of bad habits. Also I'm not as aggressive as I was in my 20s (I'll be 40 this year). Thus I've been leaning toward softer flexing skis these days.

I was on the 172 Enforcer, so length wasn't the issue.

I tried the Rustler 10 a year ago and while it felt lighter than the Enforcer, I found it less forgiving.

I tried the 176 Origin 106 and found it more demanding than I'd like. I wish now that I tried the 171.

I'm curious to try the new QST 106. I tried the 2018 version and didn't like it. When skiing powder I felt like one ski wanted to go one way and the other ski wanted to go the other. That's not something I experienced on any other ski I tried. Seems like the 2020 version is more composed.
 

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I'm 5'7", 150 lbs. I've been skiing my whole life but I have a number of bad habits. Also I'm not as aggressive as I was in my 20s (I'll be 40 this year). Thus I've been leaning toward softer flexing skis these days.

I was on the 172 Enforcer, so length wasn't the issue.

I tried the Rustler 10 a year ago and while it felt lighter than the Enforcer, I found it less forgiving.

I tried the 176 Origin 106 and found it more demanding than I'd like. I wish now that I tried the 171.

I'm curious to try the new QST 106. I tried the 2018 version and didn't like it. When skiing powder I felt like one ski wanted to go one way and the other ski wanted to go the other. That's not something I experienced on any other ski I tried. Seems like the 2020 version is more composed.

Never experienced that myself either but sounding like a tune/manufacturing issue or something on the QST. Haven’t tried the 2020 version but hear it’s a little beefier without being heavier.

With you liking more playful skis, you should try out a pair of more freestyle/freeride type skis as they have more forgiving flexes usually. The Line Sir Francis Bacon of the last 2 years might be perfect with the mount moved back a bit from the “freestyle” recommended. Nice light, all mountain twin that has softer tip/tails but solid under foot at 104mm wide. Had a pair but found them a little soft for my liking and sold them to a buddy who LOVES them!
The 2020 version goes to 107mm underfoot and adds the “boat hull” tip/tail and even more playful flex. Didn’t try it but tried the wider Outline and really liked it.
Line Sick Day 104 or maybe the Armada ARV106 might also be similar, fun options.
 

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I'm 6' 250 strong on piste but also newish to deep & off piste. I'm leaning heavily toward the 104 Free but trying to decide between the 186 & 191. My daily driver is a Stockli SR88 in a 186 with a flat tail. I like the 186 for trees but 191 for float. But with the tail rocker it will ski shorter than if it had a flat tail. I had decided on the 191 but then someone made me rethink the 186. Any thoughts?
 

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Faction Dictator 3.0
Dimensions: 132-105-121
Radius: 18m@178cm
Sizes: 174, 178, 182, 186, 192
Size tested: 182cm
Design: NGT

I found the Dictator 105 to be on the traditional side of the spectrum of the One Ohs. The Dictator could be 5 years old or brand new, I couldn’t tell. To me, that shows that it is perfectly predictable, a timeless design. The Dictator charged in Mammoth’s wind buff and nothing bothered it. It is a very stable ski that doesn’t demand your attention all the time.
  • Who is it for? This is a damn good ski for someone who does not jump from hot ski to hot ski. They are like an old pair of jeans.
  • Who is it not for? People who actually ski in jeans.
  • Insider tip: Sizing is just right, no need to think about it.

Could you expand upon what you like so much about it? I've read everywhere that the dictator is a lot of ski, though I'm assuming all those reviewers were of a ... less accomplished ... weight. I'm 6'4", 220+ and am looking for something One Oh Something, 2100g+/board, stiff, but with a maneuverable shape. Would this work out? I spend most of my time in the trees and my current ride is a Kastle XX110 which is plenty maneuverable for me.
 
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Could you expand upon what you like so much about it? I've read everywhere that the dictator is a lot of ski, though I'm assuming all those reviewers were of a ... less accomplished ... weight. I'm 6'4", 220+ and am looking for something One Oh Something, 2100g+/board, stiff, but with a maneuverable shape. Would this work out? I spend most of my time in the trees and my current ride is a Kastle XX110 which is plenty maneuverable for me.
What I liked so much about it...and the Mantra 102 was it's ability to instill confidence in the worst conditions. I think someone of your size will ahee no issues taming this beast.
 

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What I liked so much about it...and the Mantra 102 was it's ability to instill confidence in the worst conditions. I think someone of your size will ahee no issues taming this beast.

How would you say the maneuverability of the Dictators are? What about compared to other similarly shaped/constructed skis like the Ranger 102FR or the Invictus 108Ti? Those are the skis I'm hoping I can score an off-season deal on.
 
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How would you say the maneuverability of the Dictators are? What about compared to other similarly shaped/constructed skis like the Ranger 102FR or the Invictus 108Ti? Those are the skis I'm hoping I can score an off-season deal on.
I would say it is closer to the Invuctus than the Fischer.
 

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I would say it is closer to the Invuctus than the Fischer.

Since there's not much info on the internet about either the Dictator 3.0 or the Invictus 108, how do they compare? They're both have two sheets of metal and weigh around 2100g at the lengths I'd look to get, 186 and 188 respectively. Which would you say is more maneuverable, easier to scrub speed, more stable/damp, better carver? I appreciate it!
 

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I'm curious to try the new QST 106. I tried the 2018 version and didn't like it. When skiing powder I felt like one ski wanted to go one way and the other ski wanted to go the other. That's not something I experienced on any other ski I tried. Seems like the 2020 version is more composed.

I would think Greg is correct about a tuning issue when you were on the 2018 QST 106.
I hadn't been on the newer model and thought about demoing the 2020 ski first but have enjoyed the 2018 so much I might look for that ski as a backup.
It saw a few powder days in Utah this season with me leaving my Line Pescado in the car and skiing the QST many days. I’ve also skied them faster than an old guy should and they were stable. I have enough days on it now I’m comfortable on them. The Pescado’s are a fun ski in deep pow but the QST’s have been good everywhere.
I picked up an 2020 Enforcer Free 115 ($399 delivered :ogcool:) a few weeks back and bought Attack 16s from Corbetts but haven’t mounted them yet.

The QST’s sharing a quiet moment with me at Alta the first week in June.

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Which one would you recommend for a someone weighing 230ish and new to off Piste skiing? I consider myself an advanced intermediate that likes to rail on groomers most of the time and now looking to see more of the mountain.This would be for out west trips and hopefully a day or two here in the east.
My plan was to buy the Nordica 104 but the deal fell through, so now I'm weighing my options.
Current skis are Stockli AX 175, Kore 93 180 and Volkl Code Red Evo.
Love the AX's but not the Kores, I think I'm too heavy for them? the Codes are my rock skis now, but they have served me very well.
I would consider going wider as well.

Your size needs a 189 Kore, not a 180, but your current ability won't pay the bill. The Enforcer 104 for you... 185 should work. Everyone in our shop of all sizes and ski backgrounds put them in their top 3 on a real life design brief commensurate powder day. Fun AND with just the necessary amount of authority.
 

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Phil, glad you liked the FX 106. I agree 150% with your description. It was one of the best 'strong' skis on the day we tested. That said, it's not for everyone. The Evolve 100... tough love here for Rossi, but it's the ski the Experience 98/100 (great ski!) should have evolved into. I could easily own a pair. Mantra 102, just a super solid get it done type of ride.... a warrior with good hygiene and personal habits.
 
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Any recommendations if I really liked the shape of the enforcer 104, but wanted something a little less stiff? I loved that it would plow through crud when on edge but pivot really easily when called for. That being said, it was a bit more demanding than I'd like.

The Rossignol Soul 7 HD was more in my wheelhouse in terms of stiffness I'd like, but its tip wanted so much to ride up and over rather than through. I think that's more a function of the shape than the stiffness. I'm not looking for a crudbuster, but want to have some ability to keep the ski on edge through crud. I thought the Atomic Backland 107 was up to the task, but found it's tail a bit too locked in for skiing powder. I definitely want something with a loose tail for pivoting through trees.

I'm looking a ski for soft snow days that's good at handling PNW snow, mostly skiing in the trees. I rarely do wide open faces these days. I currently use a Surface Live Free. I like the shape and stiffness, but I went a bit too long. So, either an Enforcer 104 that's not quite as stiff or a hybrid with the Backland 107 tip and Soul 7 tail.

You've put in a tall and maybe impossible order, but maybe an Armada Tracer 108. What's your boot setup look like? What do you weigh? (Guessing you're pretty light, no?)
 
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DPS Alchemist Wailer 100 RP
Dimensions: 134-100-119
Radius: 15m@179cm
Sizes: 171, 179, 184, 189
Size tested: 184
Design: All New

I am coming around to DPS's lighter Alchemist construction, first the Cassiar 79 Trainer and now the Wailer 100 RP. I really like the all-new Wailer design in the 100mm width. Usually when a manufacturer goes back to the well and makes a shape or design either narrower or wider, it is met with limited success, say 50% or so; the Wailer 100 and its lemon yellow coloring has DPS coming up roses.

When comparing the Alchemist with the value-priced Foundation, you will find a noticeable difference in feel on the snow. The 15m radius works well with the lighter and more playful Alchemist carbon buid; where some light skis get bounced around, the Wailer 100 remains solid on the snow. I have more than a few days on these in various conditions and they have yet to disappoint.
  • Who is it for? Yes, you still need to have deep pockets if you want to step up to the Alchemist construction, but it is well worth the price of admission.
  • Who is it not for? The frugal, but don't worry, the Foundation construction is a less expensive option.
  • Insider tip: Don't forget to have Phantom applied when you order yours.

DPS Foundation Wailer 100 RP
Dimensions: 134-100-119
Radius: 15m@179cm
Sizes: 171, 179, 184, 189
Size tested: 184
Design: All New

It is true that RP in DPS’s model name means Resort Powder, but in the case of the all-new Wailer F100 RP, it should mean Really Playful. DPS abandoned the more traditionally shaped Wailer 99 to adapt the proven five-point sidecut from its cornerstone model, the Wailer 112 RP, and brought it down to the broader appeal of 100 width.
  • Who is it for? Those who like to grin when they are skiing; the 100 RP is more fun than a basketful of puppies.
  • Who is it not for? Figure 11 skiers; the 15m radius means the 100 RP wants to turn, and turn a lot.
  • Insider tip: If you want a bit more uphill performance, step up to the Alchemist construction.

Faction Dictator 3.0
Dimensions: 132-105-121
Radius: 18m@178cm
Sizes: 174, 178, 182, 186, 192
Size tested: 182cm
Design: NGT

I found the Dictator 105 to be on the traditional side of the spectrum of the One Ohs. The Dictator could be 5 years old or brand new, I couldn’t tell. To me, that shows that it is perfectly predictable, a timeless design. The Dictator charged in Mammoth’s wind buff and nothing bothered it. It is a very stable ski that doesn’t demand your attention all the time.
  • Who is it for? This is a damn good ski for someone who does not jump from hot ski to hot ski. They are like an old pair of jeans.
  • Who is it not for? People who actually ski in jeans.
  • Insider tip: Sizing is just right, no need to think about it.

K2 Mindbender 108Ti
Dimensions: 136-108-125
Radius: 22.9m@186cm
Sizes: 172, 179, 186, 193
Size tested: 186
Design: All New

K2 hit it out of the park with the Mindbenders, and the 108Ti is a good example of that success. The 108Ti, like its narrower brother the 99Ti, has one of the best turn-ins of the class: just think that you want to go left, the Mindbender goes left; think right, and you are going that way. The balance is just remarkable with this ski.
  • Who is it for? Dare I say ... me. I don’t usually want a One Oh Something, but this could be the “One.”
  • Who is it not for? Straightliners. As a rep from another brand said when he got on these, the tip is “active” and wants to be doing something.
  • Insider tip: The school bus yellow stands out.

Kästle FX106
Dimensions: 137-106-125
Radius: 20.4m@184cm
Sizes: 168, 176, 184, 192
Size tested: 184
Design: All New

Let’s get the unwarranted prerelease concerns out of the way: the 106 HP is metal-less, and it doesn’t matter. Kästle’s all-new triple wood core Tri-Tech with carbon (What differentiates the HP) construction does the trick. The all-new 106 HP is damp, smooth, rounded, and every other positive accolade I can throw at it. In the cut-up three-dimensional snow at Mammoth, the tip shape was rock solid and the tail held on throughout the whole turn. There are things I want to do to this ski that I cannot post on a family-friendly forum; time to take a cold shower now.
  • Who is it for? If you are looking for a premium One Oh Something, this needs to be not only on your short list, but at the top of it.
  • Who is it not for? It you are frugal, do NOT even tempt yourself.
  • Insider tip: This is the best of the BMX105, BMX105 HP, and a touch of the FX104.

Liberty Evolv 100
Dimensions: 139-100-122
Radius: 19m@179cm
Sizes: 172, 179, 186
Size tested: 179
Design: All New

Yes, this is the love child of Liberty’s V-Series and Origin. The Evolv takes the Origin’s shape philosophy and infuses it with the V-Series' fantastic VMT construction. Surprisingly, I found it to be one of the damper skis in the category. The Evolv 100 wanted to run; it was one of the few skis that had a minimum speed limit, as it took a few mph to wake up.
  • Who is it for? Bigger chargers will get a lot out of it.
  • Who is it not for? Lighter finesse skiers -- but that's where I found the Evolv 90 to excel. Go figure.
  • Insider tip: Liberty’s out-of-the-box tune has been fantastic.

Liberty Origin 106
Dimensions: 138-106-128
Radius: 20m@182cm
Sizes: 171, 176, 182, 187
Size tested: 182
Design: New Construction

While we started getting on Liberty with the V-Series, we are now circling back to some of their more familiar models like the Origins and specifically the redesigned 106. Where the other One-Oh skis I tested at Mammoth, I tested in heavier Mammoth wind buff, the first day of the Origin 106 was tested at Mt Rose in 30 in. of some of the lightest powder we have experienced in years. True that these condition being soooo good could mask a ski's attributes, the Origin 106 actually felt really nice and very easy to make whatever turn shape I asked of it in the deep powder. Where the 106 started showing its true strengths was in the heavy cut-up sluff in Mt Rose's Chutes and on the runs back the lift. This is where the Origin was stable without being dull, and quick without being nervous.
  • Who is it for? In the 182, I had a good balance of stability without needing more length.
  • Who is it not for? Bigger chargers, but they just need to go a little longer-- or to the 112.
  • Insider tip: Stay tuned for a Long-Term Review.

Line Sakana
Dimensions: 150-105-138
Radius: 15m@166cm
Sizes: 166, 174, 181
Size tested: 174
Design: All New

Yes, this design has been around for a few seasons, but it is the first chance I have had to get on it. Shame on me. Say what you want about Eric Pollard, he is one hell of a skier. He is an artist, he has an accent that can impregnate a women if he so chooses, and he is a great ski designer. We can talk about the Bacons, but there are a dozen good skis that are similar in design; there is nothing out there like the Sakana (other than its brother Pescado). It is a fun ski with a unique personality that was just as good in 12 in. of powder as it was in a wooded bump run.
  • Who is it for? Nothing against Cindy Lauper, but these are for guys who also want to have fun.
  • Who is it not for? The close-minded. The tail could turn some off, which is their loss.
  • Insider tip: These ski their full length and then some. I had a ton of fun on the 174, it never felt lacking.

Nordica Enforcer 104 Free
Dimensions: 135-104-124
Radius: 18.5m@186cm
Sizes: 172, 179, 186, 191
Size tested: 186
Design: All New

Playful. That's the first word that came to mind when I got on the all-new Enforcer 104 Free. The forebody of the ski reminds me of the Enforcer 100 when entering the turn in 3D snow, but as the turn progresses, the 104 Free comes into its own. The back half of the all-new ski is mostly that: all new (it has been out for a year or so on the Enforcer 110 Free) tail allows the back half to be worked more than the narrower 100s.
  • Who is it for? The skier looking for a One Oh biased toward off piste and soft snow.
  • Who is it not for? The skier looking for a hard-charging One Oh.
  • Insider tip: This could coexist with an Enforcer 88, 93, or even 100 in the same quiver.

Salomon QST 106
Dimensions: 137-106-123
Radius: 22m@181cm
Sizes: 167, 174, 181, 188
Size tested: 181
Design: New Construction

Salomon took its very light Koroyd tip and put some cork in it; that change made a huge difference in how the ski reacts on snow. For those who felt the outgoing 106 was too nervous, the new one removes all those concerns. This ski now rocks. I found the QST skied way tighter than its 22m turn radius suggests; it feels more like an upper-teens radius. It is amazing what a little cork can do.
  • Who is it for? In-betweeners. This is one of the few in the category to come in a 181.
  • Who is it not for? Chargers who think they need a heavy ski. But even at 1800g, these ski like a heavy ski. Don’t worry about the numbers.
  • Insider tip: If you mesh with the old 106, get on this one.

Völkl Mantra 102
Dimensions: 140-102-123
Radius: 20.1m@177cm
Sizes: 170, 177, 184, 191
Size tested: 184
Design: All New

Every year I flex a ski and immediately know, This is going to be a killer ski. The new Mantra 102 is one such ski. Where most brands zigged and produced a soft-snow playful 102, Völkl zagged and made a charger. This is the ski that 96-98 Mantra and Katana lovers have been waiting for.

I took these out at Mammoth during complete whiteout conditions; usually a ski with this type of power will say, "Hang on!" but the new Mantra 102 said (complete with heavy accent), “Come vith me if you vant to live.” And the 102 took me into the white abyss and made sure everything was ok.
  • Who is it for? Not only those who bleed Völkl.
  • Who is it not for? Billy Crystal, this ski’s $hit is bigger than you.
  • Insider tip: It is great to see camber back in Völkl’s designs.


How was the Mantra 102? I hear it's pretty beefy compared to the M5 which is understadable given the 96mm vs 102mm waist, but 2150 to I think over 2300 gr is a big difference for 6mm
 
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How was the Mantra 102? I hear it's pretty beefy compared to the M5 which is understadable given the 96mm vs 102mm waist, but 2150 to I think over 2300 gr is a big difference for 6mm

Völkl Mantra 102
Dimensions: 140-102-123
Radius: 20.1m@177cm
Sizes: 170, 177, 184, 191
Size tested: 184
Design: All New

Every year I flex a ski and immediately know, This is going to be a killer ski. The new Mantra 102 is one such ski. Where most brands zigged and produced a soft-snow playful 102, Völkl zagged and made a charger. This is the ski that 96-98 Mantra and Katana lovers have been waiting for.

I took these out at Mammoth during complete whiteout conditions; usually a ski with this type of power will say, "Hang on!" but the new Mantra 102 said (complete with heavy accent), “Come vith me if you vant to live.” And the 102 took me into the white abyss and made sure everything was ok.
  • Who is it for? Not only those who bleed Völkl.
  • Who is it not for? Billy Crystal, this ski’s $hit is bigger than you.
  • Insider tip: It is great to see camber back in Völkl’s designs.
 

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Völkl Mantra 102
Dimensions: 140-102-123
Radius: 20.1m@177cm
Sizes: 170, 177, 184, 191
Size tested: 184
Design: All New

Every year I flex a ski and immediately know, This is going to be a killer ski. The new Mantra 102 is one such ski. Where most brands zigged and produced a soft-snow playful 102, Völkl zagged and made a charger. This is the ski that 96-98 Mantra and Katana lovers have been waiting for.

I took these out at Mammoth during complete whiteout conditions; usually a ski with this type of power will say, "Hang on!" but the new Mantra 102 said (complete with heavy accent), “Come vith me if you vant to live.” And the 102 took me into the white abyss and made sure everything was ok.
  • Who is it for? Not only those who bleed Völkl.
  • Who is it not for? Billy Crystal, this ski’s $hit is bigger than you.
  • Insider tip: It is great to see camber back in Völkl’s designs.

That sounds like a decent review; there are a lot of "stiff" skis these days in/ around the 100mm range.....head kore's, fischer (various) etc, but they're all very light (under 2000gr) so I am curious about the amount of deflection in these, compared to something beefier like the mantra 102, blizzard bonafide etc. I guess you can't have everything....Fischer has a 99Ti but even with that sheet of titianium they come in at 1950gr.
 

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Great, now I have the following in mind (Whistler, can get "heavy"), but these would be for days where its hasn't snowed for a while and something with a little edge grip for the harder snow, as well as a bit of a crud buster.

Head Kore 99
Volkl Mantra 102
Fischer Ranger 102
Volkl Mantra M5
 
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