On-snow Nordica Dobermann Spitfire Pro FDT experience?

[Paul Lutes]

Eyeing the D. SF Pro (122/78/102, R16 at 174 cm) for next season - any one been on 'em yet? Any comparisons with other similar skis e.g. Stockli AXs, Fischer Curve GTs, Castle MX 78, etc.?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Uncle-A]

Maybe the Head Titan or Rally if you can still find one.

 

[Tricia]

Perhaps a Blizzard Firebird or Rossignol Hero

 

[Paul Lutes]

Ummmmm, so that's two "no"s?

I'm only interested in the Nordicas; hoping it's a less brutish, more nuanced FA 84 EDT.

 

[Tricia]

Ummmmm, so that's two "no"s?

I'm only interested in the Nordicas; hoping it's a less brutish, more nuanced FA 84 EDT.

I know that the Doberman was hard to come by at ski tests, but I think @Philpug or @Drahtguy Kevin got on a pair. I could be wrong.

 

[Jim McDonald]

Not sure it's one of these, but...
https://www.pugski.com/threads/drahtguy-kevin’s-2019-thumbnail-reviews-sub-85mm-skis.9669/
https://www.pugski.com/threads/philpugs-2019-thumbnail-reviews-technical-skis.9496/

 

[Paul Lutes]

I know that the Doberman was hard to come by at ski tests, but I think @Philpug or @Drahtguy Kevin got on a pair. I could be wrong.

They tested the Spitfire RB and Pro EVO, both of which are 72 waisted. Once again we seem to have too many models that appear to differ only in subtle detail , at least in the vendors description.

I'm guessing that the SF Pro FDT (what's an FDT?!?!) is the most recent release, so am not too surprised at the paucity of on snow feed back. Skis.com has some staff review videos up but they really don't say much more than they carve . Its possible that the Pro FDT is the 2019 equivalent/replacement of the 2018 Pro EVO, but the FDT's wider waist makes it sound like a much different ski

 

[Paul Lutes]

Not sure it's one of these, but...
https://www.pugski.com/threads/drahtguy-kevin’s-2019-thumbnail-reviews-sub-85mm-skis.9669/
https://www.pugski.com/threads/philpugs-2019-thumbnail-reviews-technical-skis.9496/

See above.

 

[Tricia]

They tested the Spitfire RB and Pro EVO, both of which are 72 waisted. Once again we seem to have too many models that appear to differ only in subtle detail , at least in the vendors description.

I know that I work hard at keeping all the models I test straight, I will never be able to keep up with all the skis our other testers get on, for reasons you state above.
Imagine this...
I skied one version of the Firebird, but there were other models. When someone asks about the Firebird, I can give an estimate of what all of them feel like but not exactly because I only got on one.

 

[Paul Lutes]

It's a blessing and a curse!

 

[Paul Lutes]

*$#@*&&+*)#!!!

Skis.com offers the Doberman spitfire Pro FDT with a 78 mm waist, and being too lazy to calculate the actual turning radius based on the 122 tip and 102 tail (published specs R=16.0), I trusted their numbers. Plus there's a ton of noise surrounding their 2019 skis, which kind of left me numb. Ordered a pair, arrive today, and low and behold the waist is not 78 but 72 (which does indeed produce a radius of 16). Knee jerk reaction was to call and demand a refund, but upon further reflection decided to merely inform them of their misleading web page specs and keep them. It will be the narrowest ski in my quiver, and will be mounted without a riser to begin with. Actually getting excited about moving a bit outside my comfort zone, just for giggles.

 

[markojp]

Use a riser.

 

[graham418]

low and behold the waist is not 78 but 72

Theres nothing wrong with a 72 waist. You may find that it is the most fun of all in your quiver

 

[markojp]

Theres nothing wrong with a 72 waist. You may find that it is the most fun of all in your quiver

Indeed. No reason at all to freak out.

 

[Paul Lutes]

Oh, I'm far from freaking out, more of a geezer/curmudgeonly grumbling. And as for a 72 waist, what goes around .....
Not only was I skiing when anything over 70 was considered morbidly obese, but more recently I've ridden some skinnies: Head GS World Cup, and Stockli Laser SCs. The SCs were 2 years ago, and based on the lack of a connection, I theorized that I needed a waist of at least 75. Pretty sure the Nordics will be a little softer than the SCs, so hopefully it will more than compensate. And you're right Mark, had a senior moment - risers it is.