Momentum Ski Clinic

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  1. LiquidFeet

    LiquidFeet Making fresh tracks Instructor

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  2. Josh Matta

    Josh Matta Making fresh tracks Instructor

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    so then why do the knees being together have to do with ski performance?
     
  3. jack97

    jack97 Getting off the lift Skier

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    It's not knees being together.....
     
  4. Seldomski

    Seldomski Paralysis by analysis Skier

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  5. geepers

    geepers Out on the slopes Skier

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    Good find. There's some interesting info in those pages. It's well worth reading. Does appear that those camps teach a variety of approaches to bumps.

    Tip 1 - There are (5) primary techniques to ski moguls and the lines within them. The trick; learning each
    one, applying it to the terrain, and to mix and match techniques as the terrain changes and steepens.

    (1) Around The Mogul, a turn that is smaller than the radius of the trough. The size of your
    turn is the same size as the mogul. Starting at the head (Flat Top) of the bump, finishing at the tail or
    new head of next bump downhill. Initiate your turn on the flat, snowy top of the mogul, steering the,
    inside ski (left to go left, right to go right). Pivoting the skis to perpendicular or more to the fall line following
    the shape of the mogul, using the shoulder of the bump to scrub speed to the flat top of a designated mogul below.
    Where you will regain balance and initiate your next turn. Using very soft drifting edges throughout the turn,
    balance creates necessary edge angle. This is usually a 10 to 15 foot corridor. This is the slowest form of mogul skiing.
    Creating patience rather than fast reflexes. Also the foundation of Bump skiing.

    The others are: Bank Turns; Trough; Skip & Rip; Zipper Line.

    Also, this is probably relevant:
    Tip 4 - We sit down in front of the TV and watch your Men and Women absolutely rip mogul courses at the Olympic
    Games and say, "I want to do what they do". But since they train 4 hours a day in the gym, 5 hours a day
    on the mountain 275 days a year, lets rethink. Hate to say it but age and fitness HAS TO BE CONSIDERED
    when choosing your techniques for bump skiing. Any age/fitness person can run the local Nastar course over
    and over again. Those same people won't even attempt one run on a similar mogul run. Conventional thinking
    says that the way you are suppose to ski a bump run is to ski the troughs between the moguls, that can be a
    good strategy if you are in your 20's or 30's some 40's a just a few older folks. But not being the best approach
    in most cases if you are in your 40's, 50's 60's or older.
    Here are a couple of reasons why: First skiing the troughs are the third fastest route through the bumps, just behind
    Skip & Rip and the driving Zipper Line. It requires, strength, endurance, and very fast reflexes. The other, if your
    mogul skiing is based upon power and fast reflexes, then you run into a huge problem. As the pitch of the hill increases
    causing your reflexes to be even faster, relying on more power.

    There are a great many more tips to do with technique, tactics and equipment. Like this:

    Tip 10 - This will be controversial, because it is not conventional thinking, but here we go. Determining the appropriate length of your skis has little to do with your height and weight - unless your goal is to ski fast. If you are an aging Baby Boomer, selecting the length of your skis should be a function of two things: your age and the number of days you ski each year. The older you are and/or the fewer number of days you ski each season are all arguments for shorter skis. Now "short" is a relative term. Skiers who used to ski on 210cm skis and who now ski on 180cm skis think they are on short skis. But, when we say short, we mean short. If you are skiing in-bounds in a ski area, with today's ski technology, we find that there is no penalty for skiing shorter skis. You gain much more maneuverability and because a shorter ski length typically correlates with a smaller turn radius, a shorter ski spends less time in the fall line, which means that the skier is not going as fast and, which, in turn, lowers anxiety. These are all desirable benefits if you are a Boomer skiing in moguls and powder. Let's re-calibrate your thinking about ski length. For aging Boomers (age 50+) we are seeing great results with mid-fat skis in a 150cm - 160cm length for men and 146cm - 150cm for women

    Tip 50 - Many mogul skiing lessons emphasize that mastering "flexion", "extension" and "absorption" movements are an essential prerequisite to good mogul skiing. While basic "flexion", "extension" and "absorption" movements are obviously necessary for skiing on any terrain we do not share the opinion that your ability to master these skills is the major determining factor in your ability to ski the bumps. Why? The answer is that "flexion", "extension" and "absorption" movements become more important the faster and more aggressively you ski a mogul run. Conversely, "flexion", "extension" and "absorption" movements become less important the slower and less aggressively you ski a mogul run. BumpBusters techniques enable you to maintain a balanced, centered stance and avoid being launched (the goal of "flexion", "extension" and "absorption" movements) by using proper routes and wider skiing corridors in combination with less edge angle (drifting) to maintain speed control.


    Pages of these tips.
     
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  6. James

    James Skiing the powder Instructor

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    ^ Standby for how that's not really mogul skiing...
     
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  7. Guy in Shorts

    Guy in Shorts Tree Psycho Skier

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    Missed the Runaway Bulldozer approach that my mogul coach accuses me of using.
     
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  8. geepers

    geepers Out on the slopes Skier

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    Ok, to head off any claim of bias I'll post this.

    Here's an example of folk with less than stellar athletic abilities skiing a direct line.


    As skiers we can get off the development path anywhere between this and Micheal Kingsbury, depending on our desires and latent physical abilities. It won't get us down every bump field - need room for the ski tails - but I expect it can be applied many places.

    Youtube is filled with examples like this. Seems to be more common in Asia - don't see much of this coming from Nth America and Australia. Maybe they don't post as much.
     
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  9. Mike King

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    Nope, but it might have taught them how to teach and coach.
     
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    tball Zipped up Skier

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  11. jack97

    jack97 Getting off the lift Skier

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    Keyword is might. I have an alternate suggestion for those who seek to learn the skills and techniques to ski a direct line, USSA coaches. Places that have a freestyle team will have former competitive mogul skiers, in addition would require them to have the proper cert.

    A couple of local areas I go to have them ad they seem pretty cool guys. all have let me use their course, every now and then would shout out a pointer as I go down,
     
  12. markojp

    markojp mtn rep for the gear on my feet Industry Insider Instructor

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    FWIW, there are many in the PSIA world that didn't learn their skills there, and PSIA doesn't really care. If one already has skills, they're more than welcome. Deb Armstrong certainly comes to mind.
     
  13. Johnny V.

    Johnny V. Half Fast Hobby Racer Skier

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    Amazing amount of information in general about ski technique. Bookmarked to be read and reviewed!
     
  14. James

    James Skiing the powder Instructor

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    Not sure the point of that example. So, "direct line", (if that's what we're calling when skis are at 90 deg to fall line), no matter how bad is better than anything else?
     
  15. Seldomski

    Seldomski Paralysis by analysis Skier

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    I don't think he was saying it was better or best method, just giving an example for progression towards zipper line. I find it interesting to see the technique applied at low speed in competition style bump.
     
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  16. Seldomski

    Seldomski Paralysis by analysis Skier

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    I asked @locknload about this clinic a couple years ago. I haven't seem him/her post recently, so maybe they moved on. Responses to my PM below:

     
  17. tball

    tball Zipped up Skier

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  18. Seldomski

    Seldomski Paralysis by analysis Skier

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  19. geepers

    geepers Out on the slopes Skier

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    That was very good. Written without so much as a smiley. Almost fell for it.

    ;)
     
  20. James

    James Skiing the powder Instructor

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    Serious question. Some of those people are just getting worse trying to ski that line.
     

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