Making a move: Who's moving in? Who's moving out?

[Posaune]

A couple of reactions without any answers:
1. Why are all of these people moving out of Utah and moving in to Idaho? The two states seem quite similar in many ways both geographically and demographically.
2. Why, with the exception of Colorado, are all of the photos of each move-to state urban ones? Many of these places have wonderful natural features, but they are completely left out. (For my state, Washington, they chose the waterfront of Seattle, which is about the most generic picture you could come up with. At least they could have used the Seattle skyline with Mt. Rainier or the Olympic range in the background.)

 

[Tricia]

Not sure what exodus people are talking about regarding NY - wish it were true but the facts seem to indicate otherwise (as does daily reality )

NY State Population
2018 19,862,512
2017 19,849,399
2016 19,836,286
2015 19,747,183
2014 19,718,515
2013 19,673,546
2012 19,602,769
2011 19,519,529
2010 19,378,102
2000 18,976,457
1990 17,990,455
1980 17,558,072
1970 18,236,967
1960 16,782,304
1950 14,830,192
1940 13,479,142
1930 12,588,066
1920 10,385,227
1910 9,113,614
1900 7,268,894

The data for the article was collected by one moving company.

 

[Tricia]

1. Why are all of these people moving out of Utah and moving in to Idaho? The two states seem quite similar in many ways both geographically and demographically.

The same thing that stirs the pot in most situations; Politics and religion, based on conversations we had with people.

 

[Posaune]

The same thing that stirs the pot in most situations; Politics and religion, based on conversations we had with people.

Well, I'm surprised that either of these things would make much of a difference. Both states are conservative and have a large Mormon population. I must be missing something.

 

[LKLA]

Well, I'm surprised that either of these things would make much of a difference. Both states are conservative and have a large Mormon population. I must be missing something.

1. Unlike Idaho, Utah taxes Social Security retirement benefits as well as pension income and income from other retirement accounts at a 5% flat rate.
2. Idaho's cost of living is 5% below the national average, while Utah’s is 4% above the national average.

 

[Tricia]

Well, I'm surprised that either of these things would make much of a difference. Both states are conservative and have a large Mormon population. I must be missing something.

I really don't know because I haven't been to Idaho in a few years and haven't talked to people from there, but I've had some interesting conversations with people who are annoyed by the actions taken at places like Bears Ears. Keeping in mind that we've been in Utah during a couple of the rallies when people are riled up.
I recall talking to one girl who was planning on moving to Bozeman to get out of Utah.
I don't know if she did.
So, I guess my gut feeling is just a wild ass guess.

 

[Seldomski]

Forbes article is a bit annoying to thumb through. I like this better:

http://www.businessinsider.com/state-domestic-migration-map-2016-to-2017-2018-1

 

[Seldomski]

And to follow up, actual population change in % per state in same time period:

http://www.businessinsider.com/here...s-population-grew-or-shrank-in-a-year-2017-12

 

[David Chaus]

Well, I'm surprised that either of these things would make much of a difference. Both states are conservative and have a large Mormon population. I must be missing something.

1. Unlike Idaho, Utah taxes Social Security retirement benefits as well as pension income and income from other retirement accounts at a 5% flat rate.
2. Idaho's cost of living is 5% below the national average, while Utah’s is 4% above the national average.

While there might be some number of people moving accross state lines from Northern UT to SE Idaho for financial reasons, there really isn’t much difference in the cost of living in the rural areas near the state border. I think the largest driver of Idaho’s growth is Boise; there are a lot of tech companies and it’s a college town as well. Lots of outdoor recreation (they have a Sierra Trading Post).

There are also a lot of families moving to the Coeur d’ Alene area in the panhandle, not just retirees. Again the emphasis on outdoor activities and quieter pace of life, with a good sized airport nearby in Spokane. Hence @Bad Bob ’s post about “move along, nothing to see here” as he has likely hesitant about the prospect of a lot of people moving to his neck of the woods.

As Posaune noted, I think the political and cultural climate in the Panhandle is a draw for many (more conservative in both respects).

 

[CalG]

I've nothing on the exact message of this video. ( We left California 35 years ago and I'm happy for the move)
There are some points made why moves are made and why destinations might seem attractive.

Community is a contraction of Common Unity after all.

 

[Uncle-A]

Forbes article is a bit annoying to thumb through. I like this better:

http://www.businessinsider.com/state-domestic-migration-map-2016-to-2017-2018-1

NJ is -6.4 and my house is listed on the market, but the move will be in state about 50 miles south west of my old location, The real estate agent said we are getting a lot of NY people coming to NJ but they will be day trippers to NY for work. That is good for me because I am half a mile from the train that takes them to the "City".