Is it the same as the Navigator 85, or different construction? I get conflicting info when searching.The Astral is like the Black Pearl but with a better tail finish in the turn.
Is it the same as the Navigator 85, or different construction? I get conflicting info when searching.
I remember loving both skis when testing.
Its different but with similar properties.Is it the same as the Navigator 85, or different construction? I get conflicting info when searching.
I remember loving both skis when testing.
Its been a while since I flexed the two side by side, but I believe the Navigator is stiffer.So, different wood that is stiffer?
Everything else about them does look identical.
Yes, different wood laminate... softer, lighter.So, different wood that is stiffer?
Everything else about them does look identical.
I remember the Astral 88 being not my favorite last year, but the 84 I really liked. I tried to grab some to demo today, but they only have the Navigator 90. The shop has some, just not sure if they're in the demo fleet. I'm ready for a bit stronger tail, I think. Not sure where I could find a Navigator 85 around here to try.Its been a while since I flexed the two side by side, but I believe the Navigator is stiffer.
If you get a chance, go to a shop and flex two side by side.
FWIW, I really really like the Astral 84 and 88.
Here's what perplexes me.I remember the Astral 88 being not my favorite last year, but the 84 I really liked. I tried to grab some to demo today, but they only have the Navigator 90. The shop has some, just not sure if they're in the demo fleet. I'm ready for a bit stronger tail, I think. Not sure where I could find a Navigator 85 around here to try.
Nooo, that's why I'm asking the differences between the two. So, that answers my question--thank you!! I'll steer clear of the Navigator.Here's what perplexes me.
The Astral 88 is stronger than the 84, and you didn't like it, but you're looking at the Navigator 85 which is even stronger.
Are you suuuuure, this is the direction you want to go?
You are comparing a $499 to a ski that is literally 2x the price, there is going to be some dynamic differences. I will say the Nordica does ski well above it's price point the Kastle is going to be more refined in on snow feel. Personally, price aside, I prefer the Nordica ove the NEW FX85 but if you have the older FX84, I like tht ski a lot. The Navigator with it's longer tip profile will be better in the mixed conditions and bumps over the FX84. I am not sure it's enough to make this ski a complement to a FX84 but more a replacement.Found a pair of Navigator 85 (and 90) locally and was curious about them...ran to pugski and of course now have to ask:
How do these compare to Kastle FX84 176 which I currently have and they pretty much do what I ask, however I wonder if the navigator would compliment it i.e. lighter, more playful or is it the same ski....
I am 43, 6' 160#. I like to play off piste, (crud) vary speed on groomers and zoom in and out of trees and bumps. Would the Navigator be a lateral move....Any sort of input or opinions would be appreciated.
The Nav will be much better in the bumpts and trees for sure.Has anyone looked at the 2019 GT84 FDT compared to the Nav 85? Understanding that the GT is 2x as expensive, more frontside-oriented and designed for a more aggressive/advanced/faster skier. But at least to provide some context of the trade space? Seems as though it picks up where the Navigator ends? I hope to demo both in a few weeks. Particularly curious as to how it would compare in bumps 'n trees... mostly East Coast.
I think you will be happy with the Nav 85 as an option.I’m looking for a sister ski for my 96mm lib techs.
Ideally something that carves steeps in slightly icy conditions really well and can handle trees and bumps in mixed snow.
I’m 58. 5”7, 160 pounds advanced and trying to improve.
I’m thinking either K2 Ikonic 85 ti, (not currrent 84 model) or Enforcer 85. I enjoy an easy to maneuver, playful ski that will still carve in steeps or ice fairly well
Tried a New Brahma, but just too much ski for me
Thoughts?