Long-Term Review: 2018/19 Salomon S/Max 130

[Philpug]

• Who is it for? Chicken legs, you found your boot.
• Who is it not for? Athletic-calf guy. Yes, boots can be modified on the cuff, but there are probably better options.

Is there a light-weight boot for “athletic calf guy”?...that’s me . 285mm with a 100mm last?

SALOMON S/PRO. K2 RECON 100

 

[EricG]

SALOMON S/PRO. K2 RECON 100

How about something in the 130 flex range?

 

[USCskibum]

SALOMON S/PRO. K2 RECON 100

Thanks! Can the flex of the K2 Recon/LUV boots be adjusted (don’t see any screws in the back)? 6’-2” - 230 lbs., intermediate 120 or 130 flex?

 

[Philpug]

How about something in the 130 flex range?

Both are available in a 130

 

[skipress]

I have about 80 days or so in these boots this season and the liner is holding up great, much better than some other liners I ahve had in this class. I actually find getting out of the boot is very easy, again compared to other boots I have had in the past. Getting is is very easy coming from my heated @KULKEA Thermal Trekker . There IS a cuff alignment, it is behind the cosmetic oversized rivet, remove that and the cuff alignment is behind that.

I agree once the boot has been cooked. I have an extremely stable high and high arch foot and without cooking it wasn't going in .

Are you sure about the cuff alignment. I know there is a sort of under the counter alignment kit that can be retro fitted but at least on this side of the atlantic they are not shipped with it. If you remove the cap there is simply a threaded post with a collar, but there's no way that can be used to shift the cuff.

Do you have a pic as I'll flag with Salomon here,

 

[Philpug]

I agree once the boot has been cooked. I have an extremely stable high and high arch foot and without cooking it wasn't going in .

Are you sure about the cuff alignment. I know there is a sort of under the counter alignment kit that can be retro fitted but at least on this side of the atlantic they are not shipped with it. If you remove the cap there is simply a threaded post with a collar, but there's no way that can be used to shift the cuff.

Do you have a pic as I'll flag with Salomon here,

 

[skipress]

I think that's just the guts of the standard oversize pivot rather than an alignment adjuster. This thread covers the aftermarket oversize pivot adjuster

https://www.pugski.com/threads/salomon-x-max-boot-upper-cuff-canting-control.14360/

Oh how I wish they didn't refer to this as canting....

Looking at the manual it looks as if the Xrace comes with this as standard but the S/max doesn't.

https://issuu.com/salomonnz/docs/salomon_tm_alp_wtr2019_300dpi/111

 

[Philpug]

Oh how I wish they didn't refer to this as canting....

This is an industry wide issue.

 

[USCskibum]

SALOMON S/PRO. K2 RECON 100

I know it’s in a different boot “category”..any thoughts/opinion on the Nordica Strider 130? Seems to come in around 1,800g/boot

 

[Philpug]

I know it’s in a different boot “category”..any thoughts/opinion on the Nordica Strider 130? Seems to come in around 1,800g/boot

Nice boot...if it fits you. It is a higher volume than the boots discusses here.

 

[skipress]

This is an industry wide issue.

Tell me about it.

It's almost excuseable at a retail level where you sometimes have to relate to people who are not that knowledgeable and 'shorthand' is easier than a 20 minute explanation [with pictures ], but that's an extract from a Salomon tech manual. It simultaneously reinforces the error and undermines the value in what they say.

It's like sitting in a lecture only to hear the lecturer make a fundamental error in their own field. You pause and think well if he believes that I'm at best going to be pretty skeptical about everything he says..

 

[Andy Mink]

This is an industry wide issue.

It's in the Head Raptor manual too. It's like they have given up. Right up there with using DIN for retention settings.

 

[skipress]

It's in the Head Raptor manual too. It's like they have given up. Right up there with using DIN for retention settings.

Head in hands....

 

[jimmy]

Got my my s-max 130s on the snow yesterday. The fit from the first mold was just about perfect. Driving Monster 98’s in half to a foot of really nice snow over a firmer base at Abasin. I got lots of feedback, I could feel the the difference between the ski edges slicing or shredding the snow. These are possibly the first pair of boots that I have had the length AND the volume right on Last boot was Salomon XPro 120. Spent six hours in them and they felt like old friends.

 

[Philpug]

Head in hands....

Oh, I will raise you one...

 

[skipress]

Oh, I will raise you one...

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Got to be a DalBello DS...

They might as well label it as banana, cheeseburger and candelabra. I was about to ask 'is that an early sample model' but just checked and they're all like that.

Sigh.....

 

[oldfashoned]

Phil, the GripWalk you swapped in, was it a straight swap in or is modifications needed?

 

[Philpug]

Phil, the GripWalk you swapped in, was it a straight swap in or is modifications needed?

Straight forward, just make sure that the binding is GW compatible.

 

[oldfashoned]

Straight forward, just make sure that the binding is GW compatible.

I have the Salomon 2019 Warden 13 MNC demo bindings. Does Salomon offer these or is it 3rd party?

 

[Philpug]

I have the Salomon 2019 Warden 13 MNC demo bindings. Does Salomon offer these or is it 3rd party?

Salomon will be offering them next season.