Yep! Deep snow is about the only time I use a kick turn.yeah, kick turns are important.
If it's firm, i do a jump turn, but in deep snow that's hard to do.
Yea! Like I can't do tip rolls anymore.....@Tricia practice with an old set of 200+/- skis to the point you just make it, after that you’ll look like a pro on all the new stuff (plus a couple of extra bruises)
However the point made that some of these things are fading (but not lost) skills is valid. There are several skills now that aren’t learned until much later (to become a true advanced skier) that used to be a required required staple to be an intermediate skier.
Modern equipment allows most to progress without needing these skills, which provides over confidence and gets you deep into situations where you do need them.
To be near the top (skills wise) you will learn all methods sooner or later, the only only factor that has changed is the when and what sequence.
Yeah, if it's steep, you need to do a downhill kick turn (or at least I do), if it's flat enough to do an uphill turn, I don''t see the point of doing a kick turn at all.Never done it, but it seems like they do it opposite. The uphill ski changes direction first, according to this guide. But if it's steep I woild think you'd do downhill?
Naturally as in you don't need to be shown/ taught?Everyone should know how to do this naturally.Hard to believe there is a special thread on that.
MiniSmear said:For how so long do we have to wait for grandma?
Smear said:It will take a while, she is up there practicing her kick turns.
My old fritschi bindings had return springs to help with that. No such thing on tech bindings but it helps a bit that the pivot point is not in front of the toes.It's pretty hard with AT skis in climbing mode.
One old waxing trick that is very seldom taught these days to back country skiers (which save the use of skins) because of the bee shortage is the use of honey. Spread on bases before going up. Climbs anything and ensures full slow control coming down.Kick turns on the way down remind me of my mother. That and traversing was her way of getting down when backcountry touring with the family when we were kids. Kick turn-traverse-traverse-traverse-kick turn and repeat until down. If it was steep she would keep the climbing skins on on the way down as well. I remember this as a bit embarrassing when meeting other people, but now I'm just very glad that she did take us out and that we didn't have to just stay in valleys and flats.
My daugther was outskiing her when backcountry touring as a 3.5 year old, so there is more hope for the next generation. Grandma in upper right corner.
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My old fritschi bindings had return springs to help with that. No such thing on tech bindings but it helps a bit that the pivot point is not in front of the toes.
Now I got inspired to tech kickturning to the kids. And practice my own uphill kick turns. Thanks