P.S.A. K2 244 Mogul skis

Discussion in 'Phil's Garage Sale and Ski Swap' started by jack97, Aug 13, 2019.

  1. jack97

    jack97 Getting off the lift Skier

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    Great deal on 2020 K2 244 Mogul skis. Never skied them but from second hand sources, they are soft and skis very close to a Twister. IMO, it great for newbies who want to learn to ski a direct line in the bumps. The narrow shape forces you to learn how to use the front of the ski, to bite the snow which starts the turn. The softest makes it forgiving when you get in the backseat while a stiffer ski will make you jet out and lose control. Although I prefer a stiffer skis, I will still use a softer ski (Twister) in packed powder conditions, it feels to me that I can grab the snow at various region of the upcoming bump.

    Link to the deal is below.

    ttps://www.ebay.com/itm/2020-K2-244-Skis-153-163-173-S170307501/193044926117?hash=item2cf25fcea5:m:mYD9_rS9wPEW8o_LB3Yoa2Q
     
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    EricG Waiting for snow! Skier

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    If someone wants those just reach out directly to @SkiEssentials since they are a forum sponsor.
     
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    silverback Getting on the lift Skier

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    Plus, you won't pay for shipping.
     
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    crgildart Gravity Slave Skier

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    Meh, they only have up to 173 cm, and that's going to ski shorter. My 179 Cabrawlers have the same running length as my 170 cm iSuperShape WCs.

    Great deal for ladies and groms though..
     
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    Philpug Notorious P.U.G. Admin Pugski Ski Tester

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    IIRC, the 173 is the longest they came in.
     


  6. Bill Talbot

    Bill Talbot Vintage Gear Curator Industry Insider

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    Yup, that's as big as they went... mine were from 2011

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    James Skiing the powder Instructor

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    Look again... you are seeing the top sheet of one and the base of the other!
     
  9. James

    James Skiing the powder Instructor

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    Yes indeed!
     
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    Philpug Notorious P.U.G. Admin Pugski Ski Tester

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    The silver Pivots look better ;). Thanks @Wendy

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    jack97 Getting off the lift Skier

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    Both sites have free shipping. They are the ones who have the Elan bloodline as well, again free shipping.
     
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    crgildart Gravity Slave Skier

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    To be fair, the Cabrawler 179 is nowhere near actually 179. Might even be the same ski..
     
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    SkiEssentials Slashing Turns and Prices Pugski Sponsor

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    We actually run that ebay account too. Pinnacle Ski and Sports is our brick and mortar shop here in Stowe and the ebay account has always been under that name.

    If you're interested in a pair send me a DM!
     
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    jack97 Getting off the lift Skier

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    The k2 244 is an old design. Back when competitors we're skiing them short for the air points. Modern mogul skis vendors have made them longer because the course has changed and judging is weighted for speed advantage. That said, the 244 is a great entry ski for moguls. I doubt newbies are going to top speed in a direct line. Their focus should be on technique not speed.
     
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    Philpug Notorious P.U.G. Admin Pugski Ski Tester

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    Other than the Shaman, pretty much all of the moguls skis are old desings. When we were at the Freestyle WC in Deer Valley, I am not sure if we saw more than 2 pairs of 244's with the competitors. I would say 95% were IDone, and the rest were Rossignol, Hart and IDone. I think Volkl has even given up the discipline.
     
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    jack97 Getting off the lift Skier

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    When I mean design, it also take into account the length and flex pattern. IDOne has a broader range of ski lengths and stiffness. lahtela won his wc and Olympic gold with air and speed points. It's no coincidence that he influenced the IDOne design to meet these requirements. In addition, rossignol's older mogul ski was a gs ski with the internal metal taken out. Their current mogul ski has a stiffer flex and a narrow dimension, more toward the IDOne dimension.

    Lastly, travis cabal influenced the k2 design and he was known for his air, the number of tricks he can do after he popped the kicker. K2 has done very little in changing that ski when they transition from the cabrawler to the 244. Imo with the way the sport is going, the 244 will be used for developmental competitors but in order to compete at the highest level, a stiffer ski is needed to get the speed points.
     
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    jack97 Getting off the lift Skier

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    I should also correct myself that rossignol recently introduced two mogul skis, the HERO & HERO ATHLETE. I can only find one size for the former at 158 cm (94/63/86) while the latter has 166 and 177 cm (92/63/81). Again, dimension wise it s different than the older mogul skis where the top sheet had the bond girl silhouette.
     
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    It was $75, they must have lowered it.
     
  19. Don in Morrison

    Don in Morrison I Ski Better on Retro Day Skier

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    I just pulled the trigger on some 153's from SkiEssentials. Not likely to get a price like that again soon.
     
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    Gonna detune them for ballet?
     

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