Is there any interest in a Mid-Atlantic Gathering?

Discussion in 'Gatherings and On-the-Hill Meetups' started by LaurelHillCraze, Aug 10, 2019.

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  1. LaurelHillCraze

    LaurelHillCraze AKA Rob Davis Skier

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    Traditionally the Mid-A Gathering has been in late February and held at resorts in the Allegheny Mountains in PA and WV. It began at Seven Springs in 2005 and convened there for a few years before switching venues and alternating between Blue Knob PA and Timberline WV until around 2015. The past two seasons Jim Kenney and I hosted weekend gatherings at Laurel Mountain in February. Last season we were able to get the $41 group rate single day tickets at the ticket window by just by asking for the "Support Laurel Mountain" rate. Laurel can be great fun for a weekend if mother nature has been kind:

    http://www.dcski.com/articles/1574 and https://www.pugski.com/threads/gathering-at-laurel-mountain-pa-feb-1-3-2019.13917

    This season I will no doubt organize another Support Laurel Mountain discount weekend for the Support Laurel Mountain Group. I'm thinking after MLK Holiday but before Presidents. We can organize a Gathering around that weekend but absent natural snow and with only about 40 acres in snowmaking, one could spend a good bit of time in the Wildcat Lounge between skiing 2 different mile-long long intermediate cruisers on 760 vertical and a steep groomed expert drop of around 600 vertical feet. The saving grace in the event of "snowmaking only terrain" is nearby sister resort 7 Springs and 250 acres of snowmaking on 3 faces, 750 vertical and some of the best parks in the east. A weekend Highland Pass covering both resorts plus nearby Hidden Valley (3 resorts for a total of 79 slopes and trails, 9 parks on 465 acres) beginning 4 pm Friday through 9 pm Sunday will cost $169. Weekend passes for Laurel only 9 am Friday until Sunday close cost $107. There is no on-mountain lodging at Laurel but private home rentals are available just outside of Laurel's access road within a mile or two. Motels, cabins, and Airbnb options are available within a 20-minute drive. On mountain accommodations will probably be available at Seven Springs. It is about a 40-minute drive to Laurel.

    Unfortunately, Timberline is no longer an option. Blue Knob found new owners before its infrastructure deteriorated to the condition of Timberline, unfortunately, there was a backlog of maintenance and snowmaking issues. They have not made snow on their signature expert trail, Extrovert for the past 3 years. Last season snowmaking failure prevented expert cruiser trail High Hopes to open with any consistency.
     
  2. MarkP

    MarkP Out on the slopes Skier

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    I'm up for a Mid-Atlantic gathering. My personal preference at this time would be either of the weekends starting January 24 or 31. The way my winter plans are shaping up the February 8 weekend gets too close to travel starting in the middle of the month.
     
  3. James

    James Skiing the powder Instructor

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    Timberline.
     
  4. Coach13

    Coach13 Out on the slopes Skier

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    Yep-we can all set around on the tailgate of my truck, grill and have beers, and talk about what could have been.
     
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  5. dbostedo

    dbostedo Asst. Gathermeister-- Jackson Hole 2020 Moderator

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    I'd like to attend, but would like the weekend of Feb. 8th or 15th. Earlier and later run into other Gatherings for me. Unless we're having a good season and could go Jan 11th or 18th. (Not sure where the holiday weekends are in there...)
     


  6. crgildart

    crgildart Gravity Slave Skier

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    I'm probably good with any weekend dates other than our scout troop weekend. No idea when that will be but odds of it being in February are pretty strong. Although, we also go MLK Sunday some years..
     
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    LaurelHillCraze

    LaurelHillCraze AKA Rob Davis Skier

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    We can use AT bindings and skins. Always was faster than their chairlifts. Chip would love to see us next door.
     
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  8. dbostedo

    dbostedo Asst. Gathermeister-- Jackson Hole 2020 Moderator

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    ^^^
    Well Canaan Valley may still be an option... depending on what the season is looking like and how open they are. Doesn't have the terrain of other places, but is still a lot of fun, IMO.
     
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  9. cantunamunch

    cantunamunch Meh Skier

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    If this happens, I'm in fosho. The un-skinned can use CV's lifts to get to Pipeline.
     
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    LaurelHillCraze AKA Rob Davis Skier

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    I'm in the unskinned group. I sold my AT set up last season due to lack of meaningful snow and the reopening of Laurel. Maybe Chip has something for rent?
     
  11. Dean

    Dean Booting up Skier

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    I'd be up for a Snowshoe meet up (personal preference and IKON).
     
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    crgildart Gravity Slave Skier

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    Got a lead on affordable (cheap) lodging at or near the resort? That's always been the obstacle with SnowShoe for most.
     
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    Dean Booting up Skier

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    No secrets to share. Sharing something mountaintop helps with cost. The snowshoe inn at the bottom is basic and the least expensive. Used to have a couple good vrbo options, but the market has changed. Think ikon gets a small lodging discount through central reservations.
     
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    dbostedo Asst. Gathermeister-- Jackson Hole 2020 Moderator

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    Just to level set some folks that haven't been around for past mid-A gatherings, they've typically been a bit different than the New England or western gatherings.

    They've been more family focused and often had a big shared house rental to keep costs down. I think we could get as low as a couple hundred per family for the weekend by going to Blue Knob or Timberline, even with ski-in / ski-out.

    Not saying it has to be that way, but it was fun having a shared place and potluck meals.

    So that always kept Snowshoe or Seven Springs out of the trade space. Last season was more like other gatherings with folks fending for themselves and no focus on slopeside. Seems that may be the norm now unless Blue Knob improves.
     
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  15. theNitza

    theNitza Justin (from WV!) Skier

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    Count me in as long as scheduling works out!
     
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    Johnfmh Johnfmh Skier

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    Depending on the location and date, I would be up for it.
     
  17. Philpug

    Philpug Enjoying being back on two skis. Admin Pugski Ski Tester

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    With all of the DCSki transplants, this is making more and more sense.
     
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    johnnyvw Getting on the lift Skier

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    I would be up for it, unless it's at CV, that's too far of a drive for me for the limited terrain (unless the conditions are off the charts good). All others mentioned would be fair game. I actually had zero days on the slopes last year, so I'm itching for the upcoming season.
     
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    LaurelHillCraze AKA Rob Davis Skier

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    Just to be clear on my position. If there is interest in doing a Mid-A gathering at Laurel/Seven Springs then I can help by getting single-day lift ticket discounts to Laurel. I envision Laurel being the primary spot and lodging would be nearby. There is no on-slope lodging at Laurel but there are a few Airbnb rentals available very close by in Laurel Mountain Village less than a mile from the lift with more lodging options within 20 minutes. I would recommend that Ligonier be the lodging locus as it is a real town with a few dining/watering hole options, a bowling alley/bar & grill, movie theater, a recreated fort with a year-round museum interpreting the French and Indian War. For those familiar with Stowe before their Spruce Peak development, the relationship between Laurel and Ligioner is like a mini version of the relationship between Stowe, the village and Mt. Mansfield, the ski area. I bring this up if there are those that would be looking for a more rounded après ski or family experience. If natural snow is lacking then Seven Springs is available about a 30-minute drive with over 250 snowmaking acres of trails, slopes, parks and pipes. If natural snow is bountiful then Laurel offers the best expert terrain short of Blue Knob for the region. Total skiing acreage for Laurel with a thick natural coat would be less than 100 acres which include the unmarked glades that I know of.

    The contrast between Seven Springs and Laurel is drastic. Seven Springs is a full-on 4 season resort with many accommodation options including a 7 story hotel at the base and a condo/cabin village surrounding the ski slopes. The Springs (as we yinzers say) has several on-site bars including the infamous Foggy Goggle at the base, most with live music at some point in the day. There are health spas, indoor pools, hot tube rentals, kids and teen game room, boutique shops, a full-service ski shop, and dining option from very casual to fine dining. Add an extensive shuttle bus system to tie it all together. Oh, and a tubing hill. All of this right at the base. Did I mention the 2 hi-speed 6 packs, 3 fixed-grip quads, 5 triples, 3 magic carpets, and 1 rope tow. It very much feels like a resort.

    Laurel has 1 new Skytrac (2016) fixed-grip quad and a rope tow. No park, no pipe. One lodge with a snack bar on the main floor and bar/ light menu restaurant downstairs. and that's it. It feels like the small, pretty well run area with good but limited snowmaking with a clientele that is very friendly and happy to share the mountain with you.

    Then there is also nearby Hidden Valley which is a whole other ski resort with an excellent snowmaking system and good lift network on a modest vertical.

    The dates I would prefer are Jan 31 to Feb 2 or the next weekend, Feb 7 to Feb 9. The latter will not overlap the Taos Gathering.

    That is my case for a Laurel/Seven Springs Gathering. If there is interest in going elsewhere, I would likely attend but I am not in a position to organize for another location. Perhaps a real poll to determine location and dates is in order. I can't seem to post a multi-question poll so perhaps @dbostedo can post one with location and date selections and maybe tag this thread and a new poll so folks might better find this discussion?
     
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  20. dbostedo

    dbostedo Asst. Gathermeister-- Jackson Hole 2020 Moderator

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    I can help @LaurelHillCraze ... but it takes a new thread. Sounds like we want four choices for the poll?

    Jan 31-Feb 2, Laurel/Seven Springs
    Jan 31-Feb 2, Snowshoe
    Feb 7-Feb 9, Laurel/Seven Springs
    Feb 7-Feb 9, Snowshoe

    Any other options? We can put the poll up and I can lock this thread with a pointer to the new one.
     
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