Intuition Liner Molding Question

[EricG]

I haven’t molded a set of these in a while. So I need some clarity of the footbed step as I’ve received several bits of conflicting info.

Option #1: after heating liner, slip footbed into liner, then insert foot (toecap inside sock), wrap liner around foot and slide into shell.

Option #2: assemble footbed inside sock with the toecap, then insert foot into heated liner, then slip whole thing into shell

Option #3: after heating the liner, insert footbed, insert liner w/ footbed into shell, then insert foot (toecap inside sock)

Is the use of a shopping bag still suggested to ease the liner into the shell?

 

[pchewn]

I use method #3 and it works well. I would think that method #1 would work just as well. Method #2 differs too much from actual use (in my opinion).

 

[oldfashoned]

The plastic vegetable bag over the sock taped on works great for easy slide into the liner. Recommend.

 

[oldfashoned]

The plastic vegetable bag over the sock taped on works great for easy slide into the liner. Recommend.

Oh ya, make sure the bag is the thinnest kind, and there is no lumps in it. 1 wrap of tape to hold it up and tight.

 

[Dakine]

Door #3 for me.

 

[pais alto]

+3 for #3

Make a shoe horn out of a 2 liter soda bottle to help you get the liner into the shell.

 

[Eric267]

Have done 2 and 3. Prefer 2 if you have access (shop) with a boot spreader of some sort. It's difficult to angle into the boot with the hard footbed inside the sock, assuming it's not a stock bed.

Personal prefrence but I do no toe cap. I like my toes packed down tight so would rather break it in naturally.

 

[EricG]

Thanks for the feedback y’all. This will be interesting to compare these to my BD Foam liners which I loved. Worst case the Intuitions go in the trash and I’ll have another set of BD’s made.

 

[Scruffy]

#2 is all I've ever done. Here is my DIY method for spreading the boot shell so the liner does not wrinkle.

https://www.pugski.com/threads/boot...iy-methods-at-your-own-risk.4149/#post-182359

 

[oldfashoned]

Personal prefrence but I do no toe cap. I like my toes packed down tight so would rather break it in naturally.

I second the no toe cap!!

 

[pais alto]

Thanks for the feedback y’all. This will be interesting to compare these to my BD Foam liners which I loved. Worst case the Intuitions go in the trash and I’ll have another set of BD’s made.

Good luck finding a BD liner, they’ve been out of the boot business for a few years.

If your talking about touring boots, I’d suggest that you’ll really want a toe cap.

 

[EricG]

Good luck finding a BD liner, they’ve been out of the boot business for a few years.

If your talking about touring boots, I’d suggest that you’ll really want a toe cap.

Boot Doc liners are not a problem to get. I should have written it out vs abbreviated to prevent confusion.

 

[pais alto]

Boot Doc liners are not a problem to get. I should have written it out vs abbreviated to prevent confusion.

Ah!

 

[markojp]

I haven’t molded a set of these in a while. So I need some clarity of the footbed step as I’ve received several bits of conflicting info.

Option #1: after heating liner, slip footbed into liner, then insert foot (toecap inside sock), wrap liner around foot and slide into shell.

This. Without exception in my experience doing many of these. Some boots may need a plastic bag over the liner before putting the liner and foot into the shell.

 

[markojp]

Personal prefrence but I do no toe cap. I like my toes packed down tight so would rather break it in naturally.

This may work for you, but it DOES NOT work for most people when fitting intuition liners.

 

[cantunamunch]

Ah!

Yeh, you're not the only one here to think BD:= Black Diamond.

 

[EricG]

Yeh, you're not the only one here to think BD:= Black Diamond.

My fault using abbreviations.

 

[cantunamunch]

My fault using abbreviations.

No harm no foul. In 2-3 years people will have forgotten about Black Diamond boots and liners anyway...

 

[Eleeski]

Personal prefrence but I do no toe cap. I like my toes packed down tight so would rather break it in naturally.

Toe caps are critical but need to be done right. I molded a waterski liner without a toe cap. Loved the feel but ended up with a sore foot. I never got enough packed out room despite lots of hours. Remolded them with the toe cap and solved the problem. But might have put too big a toe cap in for the remolding as the feel was too loose. Note, I made my own toe cap and was trying for lots of room to solve the foot problem and went too far. I ended up getting used to the toe room (and comfort) and am still skiing that liner.

Regarding the process, as long as you work quickly and position everything properly, it doesn't matter how you get there. My waterski footbed is only half the foot length so having a sharp mold line holds it in place better - so no sock to help position it to my foot, I just have to get it right.

Eric

 

[Eric267]

Toe caps are critical but need to be done right. I molded a waterski liner without a toe cap. Loved the feel but ended up with a sore foot. I never got enough packed out room despite lots of hours. Remolded them with the toe cap and solved the problem. But might have put too big a toe cap in for the remolding as the feel was too loose. Note, I made my own toe cap and was trying for lots of room to solve the foot problem and went too far. I ended up getting used to the toe room (and comfort) and am still skiing that liner.

Regarding the process, as long as you work quickly and position everything properly, it doesn't matter how you get there. My waterski footbed is only half the foot length so having a sharp mold line holds it in place better - so no sock to help position it to my foot, I just have to get it right.

Eric

Like I said just a personal preference.. I've done 5 intuition liners in the past 7 years or so and done 3 with cap and 2 without. I just don't like the pocket it creates.