Instructor in Salt Lake City Wanted.

Discussion in 'Ski School' started by Carlos Medina, Aug 31, 2019.

?
  1. Yes, he/she is my partner in crime.

  2. No, I don't know enough.

  3. H*ll no, I want to keep him/her happy and be enthusiastic when on the slopes.

Results are only viewable after voting.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Carlos Medina

    Carlos Medina At the base lodge Skier

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2019
    Posts:
    4
    Location:
    Orlando/Salt Lake City
    Greetings,

    We have found it nearly impossible to find an independent ski instructor in Salt Lake City. My wife and I will be visiting from 20 Dec - 2 Jan. We would like to find an instructor to give her at least 2 half day sessions, totaling 8 hours. I know that resorts have an almost absolute monopoly on the enterprise AND they pay the instructors a fraction of what the resort is charging (yes, I know about operational costs), but there has to be an option or two out there. I can't teach her skiing because I am intermediate and my big strength is snowboarding (Double black, baby :yeah: )


    I really do not want one of those instructors that will say "all you need is time". No. Much less one that gives that phony encouragement that makes me roll my eyes "good job!!" after anything.


    Help me, Obi Wan Kenobi, there will be powder soon!

    :armsling:
     
  2. Nancy Hummel

    Nancy Hummel Ski more, talk less. Instructor

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2016
    Posts:
    542
    Location:
    Snowmass/Denver
    Take a lesson at the resort. What you are looking for is illegal and while you can find people to do this, resorts look for people doing this and will report to police.
     
    Mendieta likes this.
  3. dbostedo

    dbostedo Asst. Gathermeister-- Jackson Hole 2020 Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2016
    Posts:
    4,052
    Location:
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Welcome to Pugski! Unfortunately it's not a near monopoly on instruction at most resorts... it's an actual monopoly and outside instructors are not allowed.

    I don't know enough about the resorts around SLC... but i suspect that will be the case. So instead, i think you should be looking for a good instructor recommendation for someone on staff at one of the resorts.
     
  4. David Chan

    David Chan getting after it! Instructor

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2015
    Posts:
    113
    Location:
    San Francisco, CA
    You are asking if any instructor is willing to violate their agreement with the school that has hired them.

    How that is not fair to the instructors is a totally different thread/post but most ethical instructors will not teach under the table.
    Good way to get banned from multiple resorts real fast..
     
    jimmy and Mendieta like this.
  5. Thread Starter
    TS
    Carlos Medina

    Carlos Medina At the base lodge Skier

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2019
    Posts:
    4
    Location:
    Orlando/Salt Lake City

    Interesting. Based on occupational or business license? Some Resorts are, as a matter of fact, located in public land, the lifts are what’s private property. Because, calling the police would be for what? Trespassing? Pissing then off?
     


  6. Thread Starter
    TS
    Carlos Medina

    Carlos Medina At the base lodge Skier

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2019
    Posts:
    4
    Location:
    Orlando/Salt Lake City

    Correct, that’s why I asked about an “independent instructor”, not an “under-the-table one. I know about service/employment contracts and restrictive covenants.

    I’d expect people to not violate a contract and risk their job and livelihood.
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2019
  7. Thread Starter
    TS
    Carlos Medina

    Carlos Medina At the base lodge Skier

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2019
    Posts:
    4
    Location:
    Orlando/Salt Lake City

    If resorts contract almost instructors and employ them, correct, that’s a monopoly.
    I just imagine that, this being a “free” country, in which free enterprise is encouraged, one would find at least a handful of instructors.

    It’s like not being able to find a surgeon because a corporation, i.e. Aspen Dental owns all the market. ;)
     
  8. Jack skis

    Jack skis Ex 207cm VR17 Skier Skier

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2015
    Posts:
    348
    Location:
    Fidalgo Island, WA
    Carlos I fear you missed out on years and years of discussion on "independent instructors" at US ski areas. What you are looking for may exist, but your chances of finding it here are slim to say the least. Brings to mind that old expression regarding beating a dead horse. This site can get you recommendations for excellent instructors working at and for almost any ski area you might visit. Best of luck.
     
    Tricia likes this.
  9. LiquidFeet

    LiquidFeet Making fresh tracks Instructor

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2015
    Posts:
    2,208
    Location:
    New England
    @Carlos Medina, I suspect members here will give you the details of why ski schools run by resorts on public land are officially given a legal monopoly by the US Forest Service. This is a thing. It's illegal for an instructor to teach for money at almost every ski area in the country. And for that reason (and others), employed instructors do get underpaid by the ski school. That's a big topic on this forum since we have so many instructor members.

    However, buying lessons for your wife from the ski school does not have to end up with bad lessons. Many instructors are very good at teaching; you just have to find one of those people. Call the ski school, ask to speak with the ski school director, and if you can get through, explain your hesitations for booking a lesson to that person. Ask for a recommendation for a Level III certified instructor who will not do the things prior instructors have done. Be specific. Then book a private lesson or two, and if you are concerned about your instructor's pay, offer a very big tip in the end.

    Or if you say in this thread where you will be skiing, members who know which instructors at that mountain are very good, they can contact you through private message to give you that recommendation.

    If your wife is dissatisfied as the lesson progresses, have her leave the lesson and go down to the ski school office and complain. She'll be reassigned; people don't complain often enough. By the way, booking waay ahead is necessary to get the most requested instructors.
     
    Mendieta likes this.
  10. KingGrump

    KingGrump Most Interesting Man In The World Team Gathermeister

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2015
    Posts:
    3,944
    Location:
    NYC
  11. Mendieta

    Mendieta Master of Snowplow Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Posts:
    4,016
    Location:
    SF Bay Area, CA, USA
    I think there is enough info enough in this thread, thanks to the community. Locking the thread now.
     
    Philpug and Tricia like this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page


  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice