Hot Waxing Approach

[cantunamunch]

For a short time between 0:42 and 0:53 and again at 1:09 , but yes, yes it does.

 

[Tom K.]

Given the level of technology in so many areas today, it really surprises me that we can't buy something you simply wipe or spray on that results in fast skis for a whole day.

It sure would make multi-day road trips a lot easier.

A little OT, but hey, it's my thread!

 

[Primoz]

@Tom K. there is something like this, but it's just an overlay. Swix started this with their HVC (High velocity cera) liquid and others are following. But it's a little bit expensive for non-racing use, as one 50ml box of HVC costs about 200-250eur

 

[Tom K.]

@Tom K. there is something like this, but it's just an overlay. Swix started this with their HVC (High velocity cera) liquid and others are following. But it's a little bit expensive for non-racing use, as one 50ml box of HVC costs about 200-250eur

200 EUR? Ouch!

I just want a wipe on "wax" that lasts one day instead of one run.

I'd gladly pay for it, but not ready to go for 200 EUR.

 

[Mendieta]

Paging @SlideWright to the courtesy phone. I thought he had a good easy spray that would last over a day ...

 

[Yo Momma]

I just want a wipe on "wax" that lasts one day instead of one run.
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This is what I use as well as hot wax and probably as close as you'll get to that: http://www.zardoznotwax.com/what-is-notwax/faqs.php

 

[cantunamunch]

Paging @SlideWright to the courtesy phone. I thought he had a good easy spray that would last over a day ...

I'm not @SlideWright but I have used http://www.slidewright.com/briko-maplus-universal-fluoro-liquid-ski--snowboard-wax-75-ml.php with good results.

 

[Dwight]

I second that request!

2nd way in this video

 

[SlideWright]

Paging @SlideWright to the courtesy phone. I thought he had a good easy spray that would last over a day ...

The universal spray wax can last a day in soft snow, but will come off in coarser snows, like softer solid universals. Think easy on = easy off. The higher grade liquids and sprays do harden more and will last longer. Adding heat to the process increases durability.

 

[James]

No one rubs on the wax and then melts it in using a heat gun while on vacation (less mess)? No one turns the ironing board in the hotel room upside down to use as a ski workbench? Where are the innovators?

At home I use a dedicated waxing iron (labeled "Holmenkol" but I have no idea who makes it) in the traditional way, hot but not too hot, with the same temperature setting marked with a Sharpie given I am going through a 250 gram brick. When the wax runs out I'll buy something else and figure out what temp. works for that wax.

Heat gun and bases... "Well I was watching the race on tv and forgot to move the heat gun. Next thing I knew the base bubbled up."

That Holmenkohl Iron is made by Star, an Italian company. They used to make a non digital electronic one also.
They now make one with nearly a 1 inch thick bottom.
Star:
http://www.starwax.com/en_sottocategorie.asp?nyhetsID=30

You can get Star here:
http://shop.caldwellsport.com/irons/

 

[oldschoolskier]

When hot waxing goes bad or wears out, two things I always carry in my pocket for waxing in an emergency. Beeswax and a hotel package of soap.

The beeswax is an all around good wax under any conditions as a quick rub on/in. Lasts anywhere from a couple of hours to a day depending on conditions. Overall doesn't hurt in any condition, but definitely helps when the dedicated ski wax is wrong or has worn out.

Soap, extremely fast in warm weather (at around freezing or above), last for about 20-60 seconds. Rub on damp, let dry, repeat. This is an add on when you need that extra edge on your friend/race. This is an old school race trick that still works today. Duration is dependant on Temps, higher temps equal shorter life. This one falls under cheap (FREE) and quick.

 

[Tom K.]

I use Raysway tool -- now marketed as Proglide by Mike Desantis at www.skimd.com when I travel. Fast, easy, no wasted wax.

Anybody else like this approach?

I watched the video, and I'm ready to give it a try........I think!

 

[Sibhusky]

Looks like a lot of work. And not so different from corking.

 

[cantunamunch]

It was actually quite popular around 15 years ago - when people first started noticing base 'burn' near the edges of short-sidecut-radius skis.

It didn't really do the job for the hard waxes I used at the time - CH4, LFG4, so I never got into it.'

(EDIT: And it didn't work at all on Snowblades 'coz of the extruded bases so it was a double whammy)

 

[Tom K.]

It was actually quite popular around 15 years ago - when people first started noticing base 'burn' near the edges of short-sidecut-radius skis.

It didn't really do the job for the hard waxes I used at the time - CH4, LFG4, so I never got into it.'

(EDIT: And it didn't work at all on Snowblades 'coz of the extruded bases so it was a double whammy)

I may give it a try. I get exactly what you call the base burn near the edges of carving skis when my wife and I venture over to Sun Valley.

No matter the hot waxing technique, and no matter who lays it on, I've got at least slightly burnt edges by day's end.

And forget about two days in a row without re-waxing, which is a royal pain on the road.

 

[cantunamunch]

Out of curiosity, which wax will you be using?

 

[Ken_R]

Anybody else like this approach?

I watched the video, and I'm ready to give it a try........I think!

I ordered it. Will use it in a few weeks.

 

[Sibhusky]

I think some "base burn" is just wax. Run a nail across it. If you leave a line, it's just wax.

 

[crgildart]

But what if you spray on the wax then hot box it?

 

[Tom K.]

Out of curiosity, which wax will you be using?

Well, since this approach uses far less wax, I'll probably use a bit of Swix Low Fluoro Yellow (LF10) and/or Red (LF8), since I've got a bunch, and don't seem to hit the xc trails as much as I used to.

From watching the video, it seems clear (obvious?) that a softer wax will be better suited to this approach, but we'll see.

Also, I did ask the purveyor for a wax recommendation, but have not yet received a response.