Stipulated...I just think the capacity for looking and feeling stupid might surpass.T-bars are a whole other beast
I mean a tow rope!
Damn hard on gloves too!
Stipulated...I just think the capacity for looking and feeling stupid might surpass.T-bars are a whole other beast
I mean a tow rope!
Damn hard on gloves too!
You mean you don't actually sit down on a T-Bar?
Why do we tend to assume frustrated purpose? Maybe he was looking for a transgender discount.No, silly, of course not. You can sit on a rope tow, if you can take the pain...
Why do we tend to assume frustrated purpose? Maybe he was looking for a transgender discount.
A high speed chair does NOT shorten time in the lift line on a busy day. It actually makes the time you stand at the bottom LONGER when you could be sitting on a slower moving chair. Two quad chairs side by side, one detachable and one fixed grip move the same number of skiers up at roughly the same load and unload rates.. but the detachable has fewer chairs, spaced farther apart, moving up faster, shorter ride. Fixed grip has more chairs on the cable, i.e. more people sitting down where the detachable has fewer chairs for people to sit in and more people stacked up at the bullwheel waiting for fewer, but faster moving chairs.
Now, on a not so busy day the detachable will get you a LOT more laps in a shorter amount of time. But when there is a line backed up, the only detachable that is faster are the ones with more seats on each chair.
I'd rather sit on a slow chair riding up than stand at the bottom in a packed corral waiting for a faster chair.
Actually, detachables have a lot more capacity than fixed-grip quads. It's all about the loading. Theoretically, all lifts load one chair per 7 seconds, but fixed-grip quads rarely run that fast. A detachable with a poor loading zone can run 30% below it's theoretical capacity, and the best fixed grips are worse than the worst detachables for loading errors and stoppages. That was the whole point of switching to detachable.Two quad chairs side by side, one detachable and one fixed grip move the same number of skiers up at roughly the same load and unload rates.. but the detachable has fewer chairs, spaced farther apart, moving up faster, shorter ride. Fixed grip has more chairs on the cable, i.e. more people sitting down where the detachable has fewer chairs for people to sit in and more people stacked up at the bullwheel waiting for fewer, but faster moving chairs.
It does take some getting used to, but way better than the old lift, no?
T-bars are a whole other beast
I mean a tow rope!
Damn hard on gloves too!
Not exactly. In the east most chairs are well protected from wind by trees, except right at the top where the area is cleared. That's the spot it sucks to be.stuck in when the lift stops on a cold, windy day. I'd still rather be sitting than standing when not actually skiing. Fixed grip makes that more likely even with stoppage time factored in.Not exactly.
Detachables are much easier to load and unload vs fixed grip chairs. Fixed grip chairs generally stop a lot more than detachables due to loading and unloading problems, especially if the fg lift serves green and blue terrain.
If you ski in the northeast, it is usually warmer standing in line for 7 minutes and having a 7 minute high speed ride vs having a 17 minute ride hanging in the wind.
T-bars are a whole other beast
I mean a tow rope!
Damn hard on gloves too!
Ah, sorry, stole it from the interwebs . . .You can't post a cool picture like that and not tell us Who, Where, When.
You do NOT ski in Tahoe, do you? I've observed 127 mph winds at the weather station on top of Mt Lincoln (Sugar Bowl). Admittedly this was during a full blown blizzard, but that's like Category 4 Hurricane if it were tropical!Not exactly. In the east most chairs are well protected from wind by trees, except right at the top where the area is cleared. That's the spot it sucks to be.stuck in when the lift stops on a cold, windy day. I'd still rather be sitting than standing when not actually skiing. Fixed grip makes that more likely even with stoppage time factored in.
Not exactly. In the east most chairs are well protected from wind by trees, except right at the top where the area is cleared. That's the spot it sucks to be.stuck in when the lift stops on a cold, windy day. I'd still rather be sitting than standing when not actually skiing. Fixed grip makes that more likely even with stoppage time factored in.
I learned on one of those. Damn hard on the jacket too! Used have a big patch around the middle of the jacket.