Gee, here is a typical PugSki customer agonizing over a decision of which ski number X to get... you got answers from Blister AND the company. AND ON3P makes the skis in the region where you ski... .
Point one, quiver overlap. Today’s skis are so good that you can ski any of them on any day. So try not to overlap too much. Point 2, consider marketing, companies need to sell more skis, so they are coming with new skis that are “ ideal” for a given set of conditions, slicing and dicing their line. Almost no new ski offers a significant benefit over an "old" ski n the lineup, unless it is a totally new line. Point 3, instead of agonizing over skis, I would rethink the binding strategy. Attack demos are great for a demo binding, and the keyword is demo. On a powder ski every ounce of weight near your feet is loss of enjoyment and no contribution to stability. And the idea of swapping demo binding on skis during the day is a pipe dream. On a good day you don’t have time to go down to swap. I regularly bring two pairs and I only swap when I use a race pair in the morning to run gates (badly by the way, but that’s still fun). And I cannot think of a day good for a powder ski in the morning and then calling for a Z90 in the afternoon. And I prefer any regular binding over any demo any day. Point 4, you are in the Pacific Northwest, you surf over the snow, not in the snow like they do in Colorado or Utah, so wider will always be better.
Gee, here is a typical PugSki customer agonizing over a decision of which ski number X to get... you got answers from Blister AND the company. AND ON3P makes the skis in the region where you ski... .
Point one, quiver overlap. Today’s skis are so good that you can ski any of them on any day. So try not to overlap too much. Point 2, consider marketing, companies need to sell more skis, so they are coming with new skis that are “ ideal” for a given set of conditions, slicing and dicing their line. Almost no new ski offers a significant benefit over an "old" ski n the lineup, unless it is a totally new line. Point 3, instead of agonizing over skis, I would rethink the binding strategy. Attack demos are great for a demo binding, and the keyword is demo. On a powder ski every ounce of weight near your feet is loss of enjoyment and no contribution to stability. And the idea of swapping demo binding on skis during the day is a pipe dream. On a good day you don’t have time to go down to swap. I regularly bring two pairs and I only swap when I use a race pair in the morning to run gates (badly by the way, but that’s still fun). And I cannot think of a day good for a powder ski in the morning and then calling for a Z90 in the afternoon. And I prefer any regular binding over any demo any day. Point 4, you are in the Pacific Northwest, you surf over the snow, not in the snow like they do in Colorado or Utah, so wider will always be better.
The Rev 105 should be more than adequate as a powder ski at 150lbs anyway shouldn’t they? That’s a pretty wide ski. Indeed it is the very definition of a wide all mountain ski!!
Well, the issue with the Rev 105 isn’t so much the width (the tip is 144), is the sidecut and tail. It’s got a 16m turning radius and minimal tip rise and a tail that wants to finish a turn, so it ends up being harder to release in crud and soft snow that I now want, and it doesn’t really plane up in powder. It’s a wider all-mountain ski, and a great carver for it’s width, but it doesn’t float anywhere like a powder ski.
Hmmm...before I started this thread, I had been thinking Woodsman 108. The input I’ve received has allowed me to reconsider. The advantage of the BG is it would be an easier decision of what to use on a given day.
Of course, I can keep evaluating if I really need something in between the Z90 and a BG. Because I’m not opposed to saving some shekels and buying a middle quiver ski later.
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@silverback, Goats in a 191? At your size?
I suspect it’s a matter more of the tip catching in chalky style soft snow, rather than an issue in powder proper. That’s certainly the experience I had on the Rev Pro 85, which had a similar proportional geometry.
FWIW, the 191 Goats are the same ski length as the 189 Goats. They just relabeled them because selling 190+ skis scares off many.
But for those who complained endlessly about the loss of the 191, they made a truly huge goat -- the 193 SuperGoat. Now only available as a custom.
Shared a lift with a SuperGoat skier. But there was no way I could keep up after we got off the lift.