Came across this video today. How is her a frame affecting ski performance?
... and this too:
Geek on, Garth!
Since nobody bothered, the obvious outcomes - she does not seem to engage the skis at all before the fall line and it's getting progressively worse throughout the 4 turns. If you look carefully, you'll see that she's releasing later and slower and it gets harder and harder to tip the skis over and ends up skipping through the entire top of the turn, largely just throwing the skis over and sliding...Came across this video today. How is her a frame affecting ski performance?
A few turns on soft snow make it hard to judge, but I'd say that she's rotating early in the turn and skidding at the tail end.Came across this video today. How is her a frame affecting ski performance?
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I said it earlier in response to another video. I said it cause I saw it. Not because I am right, but because I want to know if you guys and gals see the same thing. I see in turns (e.g., to the right), that she is digging in and starting the turn with the outside edge tip of the inside ski which has all the pressure. The outside ski digs in at the tip then rocks to the tail ready for the next opposing (i.e., left turn).
BTW, I was commenting on Felix-Slow-SL-1.
I'm sorry - but I find that presentation bonkers, almost like he's just throwing stuff "out there". I know RLM is a great guy, with a deep understanding on skiing, so I'm puzzled as to what he was trying to accomplish there.That LeMaster presentation was fun to read. Thanks @geepers for the link. Here it is again for those skimming:
http://www.ronlemaster.com/presentations/USSA-symposium-Copper-Mt-2015.pdf
I'm sorry - but I find that presentation bonkers, almost like he's just throwing stuff "out there". I know RLM is a great guy, with a deep understanding on skiing, so I'm puzzled as to what he was trying to accomplish there.
Use the inside ski as an in-rigger? To support weight while the outside ski starts to carve? That's both ignoring basic physics (more weight on the inside means less weight on the outside), the evidence himself presented (a steered and skidding ski is not a balanced, weight-bearing platform, but the sure sign of an unweighted ski) and... putting weight on the inside ski, letting it grab even by mistake, invites an ACL tear... there is a big difference letting it grab controllably, coming out of max angles versus uncontrollably, going into big pressure.
Quite seriously, some weight on the inside ski is inevitable when the skier has reached insane angles, but it's not the cause of the insane angles - but merely a side-effect of having nowhere to hide it!
On a very serious note to all you big angle skiers out there: avoid weighting the inside ski and letting it grab at high edge angles. That is a version of the primary ACL tear mechanism in racers, the "fall backwards" (remember the inside leg MUST be bent a lot to get high edge angles, which puts huge strain on the ACL, if you load it).
Compare his carefully selected "sample turns" with say the controlled training run from Felix above - where none of that happens. What does happen is the new inside ski tip coming up going into skis flat and being pressed down coming out of skis flat - the trick is to do that not by pushing into the ski, but by dorsiflexion - if you can't muster the dorsiflexion required for that, given a random race turn or lack of ROM, then your inside ski will skid around, exactly like in the examples he gave! I don't know if that will make a lot of sense until you get to like 70 degrees ??
Please... here's how Ted messed his up recently
Went into a bump&compression combo at high edge angles... and his inside ski grabbed strongly (my analysis). I know he tore the outside knee there, may have been outside-ski driven, but still, don't mess with your ACLs...
If you're thinking high end skiing, here's a high-level race coach's thoughts on it as well:You may be missing my main point in posting that RLM link. Which is: "... use of the inside ski is for skiers who have solid outside ski skills."
I feel that everything you have to written is correct for the vast majority of non-competitive skiers. Use by strong, fit ski racers who already have strong outside ski skills? Outside my zone.
( Yep, you don't erase old patterns, you build new ones.)
... he said 'steering'. )