Most of my skis are set to 1 degree base and 2 or 3 degree edges. I mostly ski in the Northeast.
So far I have these:
Side of Beast Side Angle Guide, 3 Degree Guide
Side of Beast Angle Plates, 2 Degree Plate
Fk Brake Retainer W/Hook
Tognar Pocket Gummi Stone
I guess I need four more things? Base angle guide, sidewall planer, files and diamond stones?
Questions:
1. Do I need anything else?
2. How good is the Beast base guide? It's only $20 and seems to be made of plastic, which worries me. If they are not built well, are there worthy alternatives?
3. How good is the Beast sidewall planer? If they are not the best, what is a good one?
4. If I'm buying the rest of the kit from tognar, which files and diamond stones there would you recommend?
Thanks all.
Help complete this edge/base tuning kit
Discussion in 'Tuning Techniques and Tool Information' started by speedster, Feb 10, 2019.
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I'm on the run so I'll just address #3.
Don't get the Beast sidewall planer, it's a piece of crap. If you want one, I'll ship you mine if you pay shipping.speedster likes this. -
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I use the Swix Racing sidewall cutter- it has worked quite well for me.
https://www.tognar.com/swix-sidewall-cutter-racing-ta103/speedster likes this. -
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Also, anyone used the Wintersteiger ones? They seem to have decent reviews: https://www.tognar.com/ergo-sidewall-planer/ -
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speedster likes this.
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speedster likes this.
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Update, I have these in the cart now:
Side of Beast Side Angle Guide, 3 Degree Guide
Side of Beast Angle Plates, 2 Degree Plate
Swix Sidewall Cutter Sport (TA101N)
Fk Brake Retainer W/Hook
Most important pending question:
How good is the Beast base guide? It's only $20 and seems to be made of plastic, which worries me. If they are not built well, are there worthy alternatives?
Less important pending question:
Do I need anything else, like a hard stone for initial pass before filing to remove burrs or for final pass? I realized I have some random 70mm files and a black 70mm DMT diamond stone from the past, so may not get more files/stones just yet (unless I should?). -
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They gave me a stainless plate that has adhesive to place on my Plane BEAST. It's all good now!
Really, not a piece of crap. One needs a sharp pansar section and a bit of skill. Never had a sidewall I could not tackle with it. Just the lack of a stainless plate was the problem. -
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If you had a 7 degree plate for the side of the beast pro, you would not need a separate sidewall cutter? They don't have a 7 degree plate listed on their site: https://www.beasttuning.com/Side-of-BEAST-Angle-Plate-p/3006z.htm -
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Much easier for me to add a 3 degree plate to a 87 degree SVST side edge guide for a much better set up. -
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The better deal would be to use the Side Of The BEAST Pro with the new 7 degree plate.
Either way, I have zero issues when using a "sharp" pansar file section at 7 degrees to sidewall plane any type of ski construction be it cap, sandwich, or a combination of the two.
Edit: Look here. The 7 degree plate is there! They just sold out. Best to call The Race Place on the phone.
https://the-raceplace.com/collections/beast-tuning-tools/products/side-of-beast-angle-plate -
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Maybe give them a call, and ask them if they will send you one too. -
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Sure a good tool is important, but more so is the hands that it is in, and the experience of the user. -
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Okay, do I need anything else?
EDIT: I have added a viiala 6" 2nd cut file to the above list - https://www.tognar.com/viiala-hard-chrome-mill-files-2nd-cut/ I already have a 70mm 220 grit DMT diamond stone.Last edited: Feb 10, 2019 -