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I'd like to see more mixed events.

As much as I just complained about curling, I have to say that the mixed doubles curling was actually pretty interesting. So, I'd like to see mixed doubles bobsled, mixed doubles luge, and mixed relays in speed skating and XC skiing.

And of course, the elephant in the room that no one has mentioned, XC snowboarding.


Scooch leg big time.. They need to work on their snowboard ballet.
 

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Get rid of all events that require judging by humans.
 

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All the curling here in the states was on the secondary channels. The Figure Skating dominated the main coverage on NBC night after night. I'm sure it pulls good rating but everyone knows popularity doesn't equal quality.

Yeah, I remember past Olympics when I was growing up in the US. All figure skating all the time. What's that? There are finals of other events happening right this instant? Too bad, because we're doing a 2-hr-long show about the outfits that the figure skaters will be wearing tomorrow.
 

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Add Rando racing. 12 hour event starting at midnight.

I think this really makes some sense. Rando racing is growing massively. And it is actually sort of fun to watch -- especially when there are crazy bootpacks or difficult skiing on race gear.
 

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It depends on where you live. In the UK, there was some figure skating on TV, but waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy to much curling. Curling all the damn time.

There was also a lot of freestyle, bobsled, and skeleton, because those are the things that British athletes can do reasonably well.
Of course the whole "TV coverage" of only one single event at a given hour, is soooo...last century!

And only one camera angle, chosen by the broadcast system you're stuck with.

This year, since the majority of events were typically already finished by the time it came to the TV broadcast, I didn't bother watching it "live" (which isn't really live anyway). I watch them when I feel like watching it.
 

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Like others haves said... eliminate all events where judges determine the outcome. Or have a separate Olympics for judged events.
 

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I know the 50+ year old ladies love it, but there is just way way way way way way way too much figure skating...

Maybe I didn't put enough Way's in there...

I'd argue that it's the young girls who are more interested than the 50+ year old women. When I was a young girl I watched all of it that I could. This year I did other things while it was on.

Yeah, I remember past Olympics when I was growing up in the US. All figure skating all the time. What's that? There are finals of other events happening right this instant? Too bad, because we're doing a 2-hr-long show about the outfits that the figure skaters will be wearing tomorrow.

I'm still so irritated that NBC had turned away from the women's Super G when Esther won it. I would have loved to hear Bode and Dan call her run as it happened.
 

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Get rid of all events that require judging by humans.

Like others haves said... eliminate all events where judges determine the outcome. Or have a separate Olympics for judged events.

Really? What about hockey? Maybe play with no off sides rules and anything in the goal counts regardless of interference or kicking or whatever??
 

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Really? What about hockey? Maybe play with no off sides rules and anything in the goal counts regardless of interference or kicking or whatever??

Clearly they meant where the results are based on judging. Not where the rules of the sport are judged as the event progresses, which would be more properly called refereeing.

In other words, the result of a hockey game is based on the goals scored, not the "judged" aspects. The result of an aerials event is based on the judging itself.

FWIW, I don't agree we should get rid of all judged competitions. The only ones I have an issue with fall into two categories :

1) Those where the judging includes things outside the athletic competitive aspects that can have well defined criteria (i.e. those where "artistic merit" or anything along those lines is included)
2) Judging in events that don't seem to need it

Figure skating clearly falls into the first one. It would be better if it were purely a best athletic/gymnastic/endurance performance event, even if judging had to play a part in that. Want to judge who did the jumps with the best form? Fine. Want to score it based on crowd reaction, artistry, grace, etc.? No thank you. That's similar to most gymnastic events, half pipe events, diving etc. I'm fine with those as well (except for where artistry scores in terms of outfits, music choice, etc. intrude into gymnastics).

For the second one, only ski jumping seems to fall into that category. I'd prefer it if everyone started from the same spot, and whoever went furthest won. If you want to windmill your arms, and you fly further, so be it. I might be missing some nuance of why the "form" score is there in the first place though.
 
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I'd like to see more mixed events.

As much as I just complained about curling, I have to say that the mixed doubles curling was actually pretty interesting. So, I'd like to see mixed doubles bobsled, mixed doubles luge, and mixed relays in speed skating and XC skiing.

And of course, the elephant in the room that no one has mentioned, XC snowboarding.


LOL, I grew up with Adam and his brothers--his brothers were hard core extreme skiers.
 

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Seems like snowshoeing and dog sledding should be in there somewhere. Maybe ice climbing?

Ski/snowboard gymnastics (pipe, park, etc) seem pretty alien to me. IDK why they are sports, but apparently people like them?

Would like to see a combined events without a swap in equipment. Like slalom + DH + moguls in a single race. Or events in general that are for generalists, not specialists.
 

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Clearly they meant where the results are based on judging. Not where the rules of the sport are judged as the event progresses, which would be more properly called refereeing.

In other words, the result of a hockey game is based on the goals scored, not the "judged" aspects. The result of an aerials event is based on the judging itself.
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I get the objective difference, but I'm seeing more and more hockey games decided by one goal which post play review either reverses or upholds under controversy.. i.e. was it kicked it? was there interference? did the play that set it up actually cross offsides? The "refereeing" for good or bad most definitely impacts the outcome way more than a clock or bullet hitting a target deciding the outcome.

The real difference here I see to differentiate is deciding winners based on what the judges "liked" more rather than whether or not they were able to check off criteria. When you limit it to checking off criteria to determine the outcome then that stifles innovation and advancements to new and more difficult maneuvers getting higher scores. I give you Moseley's "dinner roll" as food for though there.. Not that you are disagreeing though. I get that you are not. It's just more to it than banning "judged" events because there are many levels of judging and some of them happen in everything..
 

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Way too much curling. I used to enjoy it on a lazy weekend but now it's just stupid how much airtime it gets.

Figure skating could use some goons with paintball guns. I would watch that.
 

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Ahhh curling, don't....understand...the....obsession..... now curling with a drinking game mixed in, that could be fun. I love figure skating but I wish it wasn't always on the prime time spot and skiing is on between midnight and 2am. I love all things skiing but not a huge fan of the skiing duo slalom event or the skiing event where they just straight line down, go up a wall and do a bunch of flips, that isn't even skiing to me.
 

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Ahhh curling, don't....understand...the....obsession..... now curling with a drinking game mixed in, that could be fun.

They play what, 8-10 "ends"? Perhaps the loser of each "end" has to do a shot?? And, if the end .. ends in a tie everybody does a shot? I see a strong need to test more often for PEDs if they played that way..
 

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They play what, 8-10 "ends"? Perhaps the loser of each "end" has to do a shot?? And, if the end .. ends in a tie everybody does a shot? I see a strong need to test more often for PEDs if they played that way..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue-in-cheek

In other words I think while there's skill involved it's boring as hell to watch so a shot here and there might make it fun for everyone; spectators and "athletes".

Yeah it's true sarcasm doesn't really translate well online, especially when people don't really know the person making the post.

:beercheer:
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue-in-cheek

In other words I think while there's skill involved it's boring as hell to watch so a shot here and there might make it fun for everyone; spectators and "athletes".

Yeah it's true sarcasm doesn't really translate well online, especially when people don't really know the person making the post.

:beercheer:


I get you were kidding but I'd still seriously like to watch that version more than sober curling... AKA "really hard sweeping and brushing"..
 

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