Electric Truck - Wow!

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When you regret your Tesla. #tesla Kettleman City, CA I-5

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What, do they get 15 min and then have to move on? Even at that that looks like hours in line.
Maybe a gas generator in the trunk with a cord plugged in. Oh wait, they make those cars...
 

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Until they can recharge cars at the same rate and capacity they can refuel cars, this will be a cluster more and more with adoption/diffusion of EVs. Being able to charge at least one car for every room at every motel will alleviate some of it. Imagine not having to stop at all between point A and point B on a 6 hour drive?? And.. being able to recharge fully in an hour (or less) for another 6 hours?? That will be the point of inflection where this starts working.
 

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Until they can recharge cars at the same rate and capacity they can refuel cars, this will be a cluster more and more with adoption/diffusion of EVs. Being able to charge at least one car for every room at every motel will alleviate some of it. Imagine not having to stop at all between point A and point B on a 6 hour drive?? And.. being able to recharge fully in an hour (or less) for another 6 hours?? That will be the point of inflection where this starts working.
I think we have that capability already, the real challenge is that everyone keeps on thinking of EVs the same way they think of Gas powered vehicles and that is a big mistake. My guess is that half to 3/4 of the people in that line probably did not need to charge and many in the bays may have been over charging (charging well beyond the actual range we need).

As EVs getting broader adoption and charging networks become more robust, drivers will also need to change their habits. Yes we can making charging faster and more efficient, but we also need drivers to be smarter and more efficient around when and how long they charge for. If we improve both technology and behavior this becomes a non issue.

It took me about 6 months to change my mindset and realize I did not always need to charge to 100%, which is counter intuitive when you come from driving an ICE vehicle.
 

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I think we have that capability already, the real challenge is that everyone keeps on thinking of EVs the same way they think of Gas powered vehicles and that is a big mistake. My guess is that half to 3/4 of the people in that line probably did not need to charge and many in the bays may have been over charging (charging well beyond the actual range we need).

As EVs getting broader adoption and charging networks become more robust, drivers will also need to change their habits. Yes we can making charging faster and more efficient, but we also need drivers to be smarter and more efficient around when and how long they charge for. If we improve both technology and behavior this becomes a non issue.

It took me about 6 months to change my mindset and realize I did not always need to charge to 100%, which is counter intuitive when you come from driving an ICE vehicle.
If 3/4 of those people dissappeared it would still be a really long line.
 

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Why doesn't the charging station monitor the charge status of the car? If there's a 500 car line, and someone pulls up with 80% charge, it should say "later". That isn't that hard, plus it does know the charging state, so it means there's no will to restrict watt hoarders. Why?
 
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My guess is that half to 3/4 of the people in that line probably did not need to charge
If you actually believe that, you have a really low opinion of human intelligence. I'd maybe buy 1/4, but even then, if your range says 120 miles, and you know you're 100 miles away from your destination, why would you join that horrid line?

The math just isn't that difficult.
 

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I'd maybe buy 1/4, but even then, if your range says 120 miles, and you know you're 100 miles away from your destination, why would you join that horrid line?
I have seen displayed range anxiety in gasoline vehicles. As in: the displayed range is 40 miles, OMG we need to get gas at THIS rest stop and not at the one 18 miles later. PANIC!

I can believe half. Especially if strong range anxiety is combined with "We're committed now" sunk time cost thinking.
 

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The math just isn't that difficult.
Humans aren't logic or math based.
Or, could be faulty logic.
My question, sitting in the cold with lights on, how many miles/10 minutes wait are they using up?

Stand by for the Fish Taco Truck with a Tesla charger on the side driven by... an ice.
 

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I have seen displayed range anxiety in gasoline vehicles. As in: the displayed range is 40 miles, OMG we need to get gas at THIS rest stop and not at the one 18 miles later. PANIC!

I can believe half. Especially if strong range anxiety is combined with "We're committed now" sunk time cost thinking.
I spent a cold night sleeping in my car in Quebec when I tried that. I got to the gas station and found that it was closed at 9 PM. On a major Interstate highway. Cold night. When I woke up there were other cars behind me waiting for it to open.
 

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I spent a cold night sleeping in my car in Quebec when I tried that. I got to the gas station and found that it was closed at 9 PM. On a major Interstate highway. Cold night. When I woke up there were other cars behind me waiting for it to open.
Similar story, except a random route 9-something in upstate NY.
 

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As EVs getting broader adoption and charging networks become more robust, drivers will also need to change their habits. Yes we can making charging faster and more efficient, but we also need drivers to be smarter and more efficient around when and how long they charge for. If we improve both technology and behavior this becomes a non issue.
If you're counting on that this objective is doomed to certain failure. Autonomous vehicles shared instead of owned is the only way to ensure that kind of coordination.
 

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If you actually believe that, you have a really low opinion of human intelligence. I'd maybe buy 1/4, but even then, if your range says 120 miles, and you know you're 100 miles away from your destination, why would you join that horrid line?

The math just isn't that difficult.
How many times has your phone battery gone instantly from 40% to dead? I wouldn’t be rolling the dice like that in the car. Even if your calculations are correct how do you know there isn’t an accident or something that requires a thirty mile detour. Nope.
 
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