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Crank Brothers releases new "easy release" cleats

Tony S

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So much of it is muscle memory. Your body learns how to deal with the idiosyncrasies of each kind of pedal, more or less. Doesn't mean it doesn't work particularly naturally with some and less so with others, though.

I still ride SPDs once in a while on a spin bike in the off season and hate them as much as when I owned a pair. The entry and exit just doesn't feel natural to me.

CB for sure has made many fragile pedals. I've owned some. Have maintained my allegiance more out of inertia than anything. That said, the oldest (2003 or 4?) and newest (2015?) ones are holding up. Last I knew, it was still true that you had to get the "3" level, with the forged or cast wings, to achieve any durability. Ymmv.
 

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Are you running the Saints on a trail bike? How do you like them? Did you have the Shimanos Trail pedals before? Comparisons? Even though I want to give the CBs a fair shot, I’m exploring other options and the Saints are one I’m curious about (only negative review seems to be about their heavy weight).

I am running the Saints on my trail bike. Previous to that I was on the XTR "race" pedal which had been a warranty replacement for my XTR "trail" pedals. I ditched to the Saints this year because my new shoes seem to have a softer sole than my old ones and I've been getting sore feet on long downhills. It was cheaper to try new pedals than new shoes...

I've always felt that wether it is Time, Shimano or Crank Bros getting in and out is pretty much the same motion, the only exception being the original Shimano 737s which were hinged in front too and allowed you to step in straight down or even pull in backwards. Those were the best, but probably too heavy and expensive for today's riders. I had hoped that the redesigned Saint pedal would use that mechanism.
 

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SO I heard back from crank brothers. The reply is a little puzzling.... I asked if they could tell us the difference between their pedal and the Shimano HS-51 Multi release pedal. I have to wonder if the response came from an overseas group that replies to inquires.

"We are not that familiar with the Shimano verson, although we can elaborate a little more on our product as we are fairly knowledge with. As you may have noticed, the easy release cleats have been released since this message was sent, and the 10 degree angle is much of an improvement with those riders that either prefer a much shorter throw for release, or those that have physical limitations that impede their ability to disengage with our standard cleats."
 

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The issues with CBs are this....

When releasing if you went to far they STUCK. If you force yours heels out on Shimano or Time you come out no matter what cleats you have on.

2. They release when the bottom of the cage hits somethings. Shimanos do not do this not sure on time.

3. They bend super easy which makes them either impossible to get out, or impossible to get in.

4. the bearing are made of softest metal knows to man.

These issues are across the entire brand of pedal, and it make me wonder why people keep trying them. It almost like its a religion.
 

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Not part of the religion, but I switched to crank brothers as my clip in pedal this summer after breaking 2 sets of xtr's in a month! was frustrated, and thought I'd try something else.

I got used the vague engagement, liked how positive they were when in, but the "throw" felt too far after 20plus years on shimano spd or flats at times. shimanos is 12 degrees i hear.
Then this cleat Ron mentioned came out, and I got a pair. Love them! Best clipless pedal system I"ve used. I do have the 400 dollar candy w/ ti crap and the 10degree release cleat, but no more broken pedals, easier out then shimano but more secure in for me right now.

Not a religious guy, will still ride flats and shimano if they work out their quality control (I think they dropped the xtr trail pedal I kept breaking).

As far as CB easy release vs shimano, The M cleat with shimano is great for some riders who don't worry about retention as much, the problem is they can come out at lots of angles, so accidental releases can happen. With the CB, you don't go out on different angles as with shimano, it has to be sideways and correct, but comes out at 10 instead of 12, 15 or 20.

no snow here, still riding a bit!

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SO I heard back from crank brothers. The reply is a little puzzling.... I asked if they could tell us the difference between their pedal and the Shimano HS-51 Multi release pedal. I have to wonder if the response came from an overseas group that replies to inquires.

"We are not that familiar with the Shimano verson, although we can elaborate a little more on our product as we are fairly knowledge with. As you may have noticed, the easy release cleats have been released since this message was sent, and the 10 degree angle is much of an improvement with those riders that either prefer a much shorter throw for release, or those that have physical limitations that impede their ability to disengage with our standard cleats."

Maybe they didn't want to answer, or maybe they were confused becasue Shimano's multi-release cleat is the SH-56, the SH-51 is the standard one. (long time happy SH-56 user)
 

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interesting as I was on the Mallet 3's when I couldn't get out and broke my wrist. I chalked that up to a weak hip that couldn't externally rotate yet but... I really like the platform and feel of that pedal. I hope to hear from them soon,. I will try to get a pair.
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As there is no other place to post as it was closed.

For years I wore toe clips and have been on verge if getting a clipless setup. Biggest worry was getting locked in a bad situation or not having the mobility on the pedal. My pedal bearing started going so, took the plunge.

Surprise, love them. Better performance, no difficult releasing.

An inexpensive MEC dual purpose pedal (flat on one side if you need to take regular shoes), and an all purpose (step up from an entry level) lace up shoe.

Best upgrade to the bike.

Learning curve 10 minutes. Set the pedal loose (will like tighten up as comfort increase), cleat set neutral. Guess all that time with clips prep’d me for cleats.
 
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Yeah if your actually mtbing I would scrap the half and half pedals if just riding rail trail it will be no issue. With that said any clipless system would be easier than any toe clips
 

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Yeah if your actually mtbing I would scrap the half and half pedals if just riding rail trail it will be no issue. With that said any clipless system would be easier than any toe clips
Went the half half route as a just in case I didn’t like it. And sometime I’ll still ride with regular running shoes.

Not as serious of a trail rider as some of you. ;).

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Went the half half route as a just in case I didn’t like it. And sometime I’ll still ride with regular running shoes.

Not as serious of a trail rider as some of you. ;).

Cheers.

The thing is trying to clip in on the half pedals is futile when on singletrack.

Also I mean it literally take 2 minutes to swap pedals if you want to wear sneakers and who would want to wear sneaker Mtbing?
 

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The thing is trying to clip in on the half pedals is futile when on single track.

It's certainly no harder than using toe clips! Just wondering, did you ever use toe clips? You know we actually used to be able to start on hills with them. It sucked trying to get them to flip over if they were dragging in grass.
 

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The thing is trying to clip in on the half pedals is futile when on singletrack.

Also I mean it literally take 2 minutes to swap pedals if you want to wear sneakers and who would want to wear sneaker Mtbing?
I agree since I’ve tried them. Let me get over that reluctance.....will likely upgrade to better pedal early next season.
 

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Anyone remember using these in the late 80’s/early 90’s as the alternative to the plastic toe clips? (They sucked just as bad).. These led me to my first pair of used SPD’s and Vittoria cycling shoes.

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