Carbon huh??

[Jersey Skier]

https://bikerumor.com/2019/01/14/wh...lized-allez-sprint-disc-road-bike-down-under/

 

[cantunamunch]

And, in the meantime, all of the FutureShocks in Roubaix, Ruby, Diverge and Sirrus since 2016 are under recall:

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/safety-notices

OMG, could he actually survive over an hour without carbon???? From 1995-2005 aluminum bikes were all over the pro peloton. .

I just went through my bikes and OMG the only alu bike I have is a Turner MTB N+1 here we come!

But seriously, that was also the era of 2-season racing frame turnover vs. 3+ for groupsets.

 

[Plai]

And, in the meantime, all of the FutureShocks in Roubaix, Ruby, Diverge and Sirrus since 2016 are under recall:

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/safety-notices

Like it was mentioned in https://www.pugski.com/threads/psa-specialized-recall-on-2017-future-shock.13476/

 

[cantunamunch]

Well, the TDU seems a good place to launch it, the buzz is unceasing:

 

[Bill Talbot]

Carbon is crap and Alu is only a cheaper version. Too stiff and too fragile.
Steel is for bikes...

 

[martyg]

I had a good conversation with Specialized PLM's and engineers.

Allez: Great bike for the money, but the Tarmac is a much better bike.

TL verse tube tires:
"The current Cotton with a Turbo tube is faster than the SW Turbo TL. The elastic cotton/ latex casing plus butyl tube still causes less hysteresis losses than the Nylon TL casing of the SW Turbo TL. And we haven’t reduced the tread thickness to offset those losses like others now do

If you are happy with the puncture protection of the Cotton and its longevity I would not change."

Note: The guy who is in charge of Specialized's tire / tube program used to be the head of R&D at Continental. Super smart guy. Probably one of the top 5 or 10 people in the world on the subject.

 

[martyg]

Carbon is crap and Alu is only a cheaper version. Too stiff and too fragile.
Steel is for bikes...

I just saw a press release that Boeing and Lockheed-Martin are are dumping composite technology, siting, "Steel is real".

 

[scott43]

I like steel..but..if you have money, can you beat carbon? And if you don't have money, can you beat aluminum?? I still like steel though..

 

[cantunamunch]

I still like steel though..

I laughed.

 

[scott43]

I laughed.

It's a timeless piece...

 

[scott43]

Jesse Hildebrandt..Wildwood Cycles..amazing..

 

[cantunamunch]

I like steel..but..if you have money, can you beat carbon? And if you don't have money, can you beat aluminum?? I still like steel though..

Steel wins CX Nationals
https://www.cxmagazine.com/bike-pro...UrDAhJAMYBqQfhhlwKHx5vWSloYgS9eO5lCmO3Rwei3h4

 

[cantunamunch]

BUMP for awesome Dutch Strava hacking.

The top 20 fastest road bikes in the world, according to Strava - CyclingTips

Strava’s strength is in its scale: more than 50 million athletes tracking where they’ve gone and how fast they went there. Together with Strava, looking at every cycling activity in 2019 globally, we dug through 9.1 billion kilometres of data to bring you this list of the 20 fastest road bikes...

cyclingtips.com

1	Canyon Aeroad CF SLX	25.3	15.7	Canyon Aeroad (same speed)
2	Ridley Noah SL	25.1	15.6	Ridley Noah – 24.6 km/h
3	Specialized S-Works Venge	25.0	15.5	Venge Pro – 24.8, Venge – 24.8, S-Works Venge – 24.7
4	Sensa Romagna	25.0	15.5
5	Orbea Orca Aero	24.9	15.5
6	Specialized Tarmac SL6	24.8	15.4	Specialized Tarmac S-Works – 24.7
7	Scott Foil 10	24.8	15.4	Scott Foil – 24.5
8	Cannondale SystemSix	24.7	15.4
9	Canyon Ultimate CF SL	24.4	15.2	Canyon Ultimate CF – 24,3, Canyon Ultimate CF SL 9.0 – 24.2
10	Giant Propel	24.4	15.1	Giant Propel Advanced – 24.3
11	Merida Reacto 5000	24.2	15.1	Merida Reacto – 24.1
12	Stevens Aspin	24.2	15.0
13	Ridley Fenix SL	24.2	15.0
14	Cervelo S5	24.2	15.0
15	BMC TeamMachine SLR01	24.2	15.0
16	Giant TCR Advanced Pro 1	24.2	15.0	Giant TCR Advanced SL – 23.9
17	Argon 18 Gallium Pro	24.1	15.0
18	Pinarello F10	24.0	14.9
19	Bianchi Aria	23.9	14.9
20	Bianchi Oltre XR4	23.9	14.9

BUT WTF is a Sensa Romagna you ask?

 

[scott43]

What that DOES do is make me feel better about my average ride speed!!!!

 

[scott43]

Or a Stevens..unfortunately they don't sell online..fortunately, there is a dealer a short plane ride away...

 

[cantunamunch]

Or a Stevens..unfortunately they don't sell online

I looked at the Stevens timeline. And found - an Alan Record Carbonio. Complete with 25.0 mm Campy aero seatpost

At this point I'm 60%+ convinced the Stevens Aspin is just a resprayed Alan.

 

[Ron]

Carbon is crap and Alu is only a cheaper version. Too stiff and too fragile.
Steel is for bikes...

you mean ti is for bikes!

 

[scott43]

I looked at the Stevens timeline. And found - an Alan Record Carbonio. Complete with 25.0 mm Campy aero seatpost

At this point I'm 60%+ convinced the Stevens Aspin is just a resprayed Alan.

I can hear the creaking from here...

 

[cantunamunch]

I can hear the creaking from here...

LMK if you want to ride one, I have an almost-original '86 in 56. I put in a Kestrel fork because braking is better when the fork doesn't judder. And a Cinelli Frog stem because then-gf thought frogs were kewt.

No creaks last year, excepting the stupid stem.

 

[markojp]

$1500 for a durable, race ready frame set? Any of you guys have kids who are racing?