FWIW, Steph, the woman taking the hiking group in the video is an L3.
I found the vid oddly mezmerizing. We skied a lot of those spots especially the day with @TPJ. Had I known that guy stuck a GoPro mount in his mouth, I probably would have had to take a shower or drink...fish sauce just to cleanse.Nah, just lucky clicking on the play time line, There is about a minute worth watching, maybe three minutes before the end,
I think in the short term this is very true. At some point new input is valuable.I may be biased due to my experience coaching other sports but I think the most important factor to real improvement, beyond the private vs group debate, is a consistent, ongoing lesson plan from the same, experienced instructor. I know this isn’t always easy for recreational skiers but for those really serious about improving their skiing (or any other sport) this is the optimum way imo.
Yes. Half of this is overly high expectations of the student, and half is the willingness to practice every day, not just go ski and reinforce the previous ingrained way of skiing.At the advanced level, many students have fundamental movement patterns that have elements of a dead-end in them such as upper or whole body rotation, fore/aft balance problems, inclination without angulation, etc. If the objective is to advance to an expert level of skiing, changing those movement patterns may require lots of work that the student may find boring.
No kidding. Watched for about 5 seconds and thought to myself that at Whistler Blackcomb he'd immediately be demoted to teaching intermediates on groomers.
If this is supposed to be a lesson, I saw very little instruction and a lot of being over terrained. (Like most I skipped through it) Tumbling in calf deep powder. Stemmed turns. Mega skidding.Not technically strong skiing, but half the deal is giving people the confidence and tactics to get down stuff out of their daily experience/comfort zone. The conditions look pretty damn good... squeaky cold and dry.
Tens of thousands of $$ represents hundreds of hours of instruction. That sounds high for most folks.Well said, and there's the rub. Some of us might be willing to put in a lot of time and work. But how many are really going to pay tens of thousands of dollars for private lessons or coaching?
Steep and Deep is an odd duck in the world of lessons. The primary market is guys who think they are better than they really are. They go easy on the technical instruction and focus on terrain-based tactics. That said, they do sneak in some instruction, and will do more if you ask.If this is supposed to be a lesson, I saw very little instruction and a lot of being over terrained. (Like most I skipped through it) Tumbling in calf deep powder. Stemmed turns. Mega skidding.
Bracing away from the slope. Whereas if this is supposed to be a thrill a minute, leave your tongue dragging on the snow type wild ride, then mission accomplished. But this thread is about lessons.
Yes, the typical half day or 2 hour group lesson allows time to identify & address areas for improvement & then some. Instilling new, proper movement patterns in an already advanced zone skier can take weeks, months or even years. The group lesson can be a great first step & well worth it if you come with a desire to learn & an open mind.Does the format allow enough time to address a student's individual areas of weakness, and instill new good movement patterns?
I 2nd this^.ct, I'd suggest you sign up for a lesson at Jackson. The terrain is complex and you are unlikely to find a good match for your skills without a guide. And a guide will show you stuff you otherwise wouldn't find.
Taking a lesson will provide you not only with a guide, but with instruction that is likely to improve both your steep skiing and your bump skiing. If you go for a private, ask for at least a certified level 3 instructor -- an examiner would be better. You likely would be well served by a group lesson for what I understand your purpose to be though.
Mike
Oh. Wow.
Oh. Wow.
An all-day advanced group lesson at JH is only $185?! I'm definitely going that route. I'm skiing Weds-Fri so I'm hoping the group will be small. Thanks for making me check on that!
mount mount for a go pro?
Seriously if I ever see someone with one of those, I am never skiing with them.
mount mount for a go pro?
Seriously if I ever see someone with one of those, I am never skiing with them.
or for quadriplegics.It must be for surfing.
Maybe someone could go back to teach garlands too.
I was able to get away from work yesterday and take an expert lesson at JH (I am nowhere near an expert). They broke up groups based on ability and didn't seem to care if the groups had five people in them or not (the max per group), so I had three people in my group. It was really a great lesson, and I got a lot out of it. We drilled, did video analysis, and kept the terrain mostly manageable but pushed ourselves once in a while. Like all lessons, I am sure it is instructor dependent, but felt like it was a good value.
It is revealing that you describe yourself as "now where near an expert" and benefited greatly from an 'expert lesson".
Perhaps that says something to the target audience for "expert lessons".
But the topic is regarding advanced skiers.
Do you regard yourself as an advanced skier?
I suppose, beginning, intermediate, advanced, expert. Is there a "professional" classification? If so, where is it placed?
Of course there is also "ski God/ Godess", but there is such gender bias there, as to be difficult to classify ;-)