Near the end the video does a good job of making the Alta Chutes look steep.
There's usually a strong corrolation between these two.
When I went to Steep and Deep camp, the lower level groups had lower level instructors. Still instructors that the campers could learn from, but there was a lot of focus on tactics and only a bit on technique. Given that everyone at the camp wanted to ski terrain above their level (for the most part), tactics are a pretty important part of the equation.
@TheArchitect, I'd suggest you sign up for a lesson at Jackson. The terrain is complex and you are unlikely to find a good match for your skills without a guide. And a guide will show you stuff you otherwise wouldn't find.
Mike
Near the end the video does a good job of making the Alta Chutes look steep.
I resemble that remark!
You know what Josh would had said, eh?
No, but I'm sure my ego would take a hit.
He tag line dated back to the EpicSki days.
It is not that you can't ski bumps, it is because you can't ski and the bumps proves it.
Nah, just lucky clicking on the play time line, There is about a minute worth watching, maybe three minutes before the end,You must have the patience of a saint.
I lasted about 30 seconds with that video
My best advice is to find a single instructor you like, a mentor, and stick with taking lessons from that person until you can hear their words in your head and predict what they will see and say when you return to ski with them. ...You'll be able to incorporate what other instructors tell you into the consistent model of skiing that you've absorbed from your mentor, or identify direct contradictions and make a decision yourself about the value of each side of the contested issue.
At some point, diverging from the views of your mentor and building your own way of thinking about skiing becomes necessary and pleasurable.
Bob Barnes says something like try everything, believe nothing and decide yourself.
At that point taking lessons from various people won't confuse the heck out of you.
At the advanced level, many students have fundamental movement patterns that have elements of a dead-end in them such as upper or whole body rotation, fore/aft balance problems, inclination without angulation, etc. If the objective is to advance to an expert level of skiing, changing those movement patterns may require lots of work that the student may find boring. But the problem of nixing the old movement patterns with those that are more efficient and result in greater ski performance takes lots of practice to move through the cognitive and associative phases to the autonomous stage. The path to improvement is likely quite individual and, frankly, will be best addressed by private lessons with a personal coach. Not cheap, and for someone who has deeply ingrained movement patterns, not quick either....
The number of folk who really are looking to put that kind of work or time into their skiing is pretty small. If you find yourself in that camp, then you should definitely follow @LiquidFeet's advice and find a coach -- interview them, take an initial lesson and see about their compatibility, and discuss what the plan might be.
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Just realize that what you'll get out of the group lesson is less personalized and less of a long-term development option than what will come from private coaching.
the other thing to note is top level group lesson mid week, typically have almost no one else in them, and typically is the slowest time for privates. So the majority of good private instructors(most who are L2 and up, with many L3s, and Education staff member) are the ones who staffing those mid week advanced lessons.
No, but I'm sure my ego would take a hit.
Yes, the classic method of scoring a private lesson at a group lesson price. The old ways are still the best.
Multiday clinics are a great option, but not a panacea. The clinic might not turn out to have the goals you were hoping for. The group might not be compatible. If you get a less than stellar instructor, you're stuck with that person for all those days.
the other thing to note is top level group lesson mid week, typically have almost no one else in them, and typically is the slowest time for privates. So the majority of good private instructors(most who are L2 and up, with many L3s, and Education staff member) are the ones who staffing those mid week advanced lessons.
One advantage of group lessons is that the student can learn a lot from observing other students and listening to the feedback provided them.
His tag line dated back to the EpicSki days.
It is not that you can't ski bumps, it is because you can't ski and the bumps proves it.
I took an intermediate 1.5 hr clinic a couple of seasons ago at Massanutten on a Saturday, and was the only one who showed up. 1.5 hour private lesson... score! Sometimes small, uncrowded resorts are nice.
No big thing.... it'll be just like architecture school.
Well, those videos of Alta 1 don't reveal how steep it really is. Really steep terrain often has minimal bumps, but you need the most important aspects of bump skiing to ski the steeps well and safely. It's one thing to stand on a slope in the 40 degree range of steepness and another to do so where it is crux skiing -- that is, where a fall is going to bring injury or possibly death. Jackson has a fair amount of crux terrain. Big Sky has a lot of steep terrain, but less of it is crux. Depending on snowfall, some of the steep terrain at JH also develops big bumps; runs such as Tower 3 often have big bumps in the pinch points and I've never skied the Hobacks when the entrance did not have big bumps.I resemble that remark!
Not a bad idea; thanks! Before I beat myself up too much I AM a pretty good skier and certainly advanced. I just know that without better mogul skiing I'll never consider myself better than that. I've been watching a lot of videos of JH the last week and there's a lot of terrrain that I'm sure I won't have any issue skiing. I watched a couple of videos of Alta 1 and thought, bring it on.