8 degree base bevel

[crgildart]

Ah yes, but you still need a wrap of tape on the outer file to guide the 60mm distance!

Old school skis were mid 60s width Tape on along the far edge is close enough.

 

[Noodler]

I've posted about this method before. It should be fairly obvious how this is done. The key is using an Irwin quick grip clamp with the freely rotating jaws.

 

[Atomicman]

I have not seen an SVST bevel meter in stock for a few years now.

I was going to call them about that.

 

[Jacques]

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I've posted about this method before. It should be fairly obvious how this is done. The key is using an Irwin quick grip clamp with the freely rotating jaws.

Ha ha ha.

 

[Noodler]

Ha ha ha.

I must have missed the joke.

 

[Jacques]

I must have missed the joke.

It just seems hyper technical to me. I know folks like to know what the bevel is, but seems like not really needed for most folks.
I'll assume the thing must calibrate somehow because making the ski perfectly lay flat would be quite hard to do in most cases.

 

[Noodler]

It just seems hyper technical to me. I know folks like to know what the bevel is, but seems like not really needed for most folks.
I'll assume the thing must calibrate somehow because making the ski perfectly lay flat would be quite hard to do in most cases.

Yes, easily calibrates to the ski bottom first.

Digital angle gauges are incredibly cheap and easily obtainable (unlike the ski specific angle measuring devices).

I post this every time I see posts about all these complicated methods to "estimate" the base bevel angle. My method is not an estimate, but a true measurement and one that uses easily obtainable tools.

 

[Jacques]

Yes, easily calibrates to the ski bottom first.

Digital angle gauges are incredibly cheap and easily obtainable (unlike the ski specific angle measuring devices).

I post this every time I see posts about all these complicated methods to "estimate" the base bevel angle. My method is not an estimate, but a true measurement and one that uses easily obtainable tools.

I can appreciate that, yet still see it as a bit of novelty.
If one uses a fixed guide, and or has an "eye" with the true bar, do you really need that? Reading and seeing reflections. Black marker with bevel tool.
I admit to having some microscopes and loops to view edge work, but after you learn what is happening, it just becomes trivial.
It's like having a window into a hot box. Window or not, the same thing is happening.
Thanks for the reply.
Maybe others would like a link as to where to purchase that angle gizmo! Respect for the Noodler.

 

[Noodler]

I can appreciate that, yet still see it as a bit of novelty.
If one uses a fixed guide, and or has an "eye" with the true bar, do you really need that? Reading and seeing reflections. Black marker with bevel tool.
I admit to having some microscopes and loops to view edge work, but after you learn what is happening, it just becomes trivial.
It's like having a window into a hot box. Window or not, the same thing is happening.
Thanks for the reply.
Maybe others would like a link as to where to purchase that angle gizmo! Respect for the Noodler.

Link to the Wixey Digital Angle Gauge available on Amazon. Now it has a back light!

 

[TheArchitect]

Another Mike story.

I had him do a Factory Fresh tune at the beginning of last season for my FX94's (.5/3 bevels). While I was at Jackson I had the shop give them a quick sharpen. When I dropped the skis off last month Mike held them up to the light and said "you had someone else work on these". I don't know if my jaw actually dropped but he saw the difference almost immediately. He said they did a pretty good job but they were definitely different from his tune.

 

[crgildart]

Another Mike story.

I had him do a Factory Fresh tune at the beginning of last season for my FX94's (.5/3 bevels). While I was at Jackson I had the shop give them a quick sharpen. When I dropped the skis off last month Mike held them up to the light and said "you had someone else work on these". I don't know if my jaw actually dropped but he saw the difference almost immediately. He said they did a pretty good job but they were definitely different from his tune.

 

[TheArchitect]

/\ I did feel a bit guilty at being caught

 

[eok]

Another Mike story.
... When I dropped the skis off last month Mike held them up to the light and said "you had someone else work on these". I don't know if my jaw actually dropped but he saw the difference almost immediately. He said they did a pretty good job but they were definitely different from his tune.

That's pretty cool... and a lot better than being told by your shop buddy: "Uh, looks like you tried to tune these yourself again, this will cost you extra". That happened to me a couple times when I was a clueless (but ambitious) youngster.

 

[dbostedo]

Another Mike story.

I had him do a Factory Fresh tune at the beginning of last season for my FX94's (.5/3 bevels). While I was at Jackson I had the shop give them a quick sharpen. When I dropped the skis off last month Mike held them up to the light and said "you had someone else work on these". I don't know if my jaw actually dropped but he saw the difference almost immediately. He said they did a pretty good job but they were definitely different from his tune.

At least he didn't take your skis to keep you from hurting them anymore!

 

[Jacques]

At least he didn't take your skis to keep you from hurting them anymore!

Where is the ha ha button!
I tell folks after I tune a ski, don't ever take it to a machine again. If so, they get charged from step one again!

 

[TheArchitect]

At least he didn't take your skis to keep you from hurting them anymore!

I'll have to be extra careful when I work on the skis at home now! Mostly I just wax during the season but if the edges need a slight touch up I'll do it myself. Now it'll be in the back of my mind....Mike will know.....Mike will know....

 

[oldschoolskier]

Straight edge, bevel gauge, tape......ha!

I got a 2ft x 3ft x 4inch 500lb granite surface plate for accuracy.

No more questioning my accuracy.

 

[LiquidFeet]

^^IMG that must weigh a ton. How did you get it out of the truck?
Got a Bobcat?

 

[oldschoolskier]

^^IMG that must weigh a ton. How did you get it out of the truck?
Got a Bobcat?

Believe it or not to load it the friend I bought it from (age 80 retiring and a little guy) and I loaded it, that was the easier part. Unloading took 4 of us to get it in place without dropping it.

 

[KevinF]

Believe it or not to load it the friend I bought it from (age 80 retiring and a little guy) and I loaded it, that was the easier part. Unloading took 4 of us to get it in place without dropping it.

What are you using a ton of granite for?