@raytseng - that lift is a blue square terrain trap. I don't think I have ever just skied on it. Granted I'm just a couple times a year tourist - so far be it from me to make an observation. That said, I have some clients in "the ski business" - they have all have DV passes (in addition to other mountains), we have client ski days at DV, we have always avoided that lift. But what do I know.