Featured 2020 Atomic Savor: Could a Rear-Entry Boot Be the Most Important Product for This Coming Season?

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  1. Philpug

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    Atomic is taking a chance that no other boot brand was willing to do: it is coming out with an all-new rear-entry boot collection. The Savor collection might start with a boot, but it is actually an entire equipment system. This thread, however, will be focusing on the boot, and we will talk about the ski and what the Savor system is designed to do in another thread.

    Atomic is looking two address two areas with the Savor collection: never-evers/beginners and aging skiers. This is not a modern SX92...Atomic was adamant not to build an expert rear entry. Per one of their head designers, it is not building a boot for the Scot Schmidts and Glen Plakes of the world; there are already boots for them. These are for the people starting out and aging skiers. Atomic's catalog has a three-column chart on the marketing direction for these boots: Before Skiing, While Skiing, and After Skiing. All three columns have bullet points, but there is a common theme in all three, which is the word "Easy."

    Will this boot be for the members of Pugski.com? Probably not, but it will be for the people searching the internet for various sking topics like "beginning skiers" or "how to get my ski boots on and off" and coming across this thread. If the Savor makes skiing accessible for more people, we are all for it.

    Atomic Press Release: HERE

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    First impression: I had a chance to try on an early-production of the Savor at Atomic's headquarters in Ogden, UT, and I emphasize, "early production." The boot did not have a production liner in it. Even so, the fit was uniform around the foot, almost snug in the heel. It was easy (there is that word again) to get on and off and easy to buckle. I look forward to skiing the boot at Copper and will be reporting later in this thread.

     
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    Jilly Lead Cougar Skier

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    Why not bring back the sister company's Verse.
     
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    So no heel-hold-down cable? Boo :nono:
     
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    Pat AKA mustski Out on the slopes Skier

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    As I *cough* mature, I do find it harder to get in and out of my ski boots. So far, I can still manage; I would hope that an inability to get my boot on and off will not end my ski life. Hopefully, these boots become a solution for many.
     
  7. Jersey Skier

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    I know I still see a lot of old Salomons in the lodge being used by retirees. These will sell as long as they are easy on and off. I saw a 75+ year old man literally scream out loud the other day as his wife tried to pull off his regular boot. I'm sure he'd buy this in a minute,
     
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    IMHO, Atomic will achive what they are setting out to do for the entry level and beginner skier but I still think that there IS a market for a SX92 type boot out there. With 70 becoming the new 50, there is still an "senior" segment that wants higher end performance that as Atomic says is easy to get on and off. These skiers still have the skills but some just do not have the strength to get a boot on and off. A modern SX would fit that need. Simple flex adjusters and a forefoot band to a boot like this would go a long way. As @Jersey Skier skier says, there is a lot of SX's still out on the hill. I know I cannot go a day without seeing two three pair out there on the hill. These are not all on the feet of people too frugal to upgrade but skiers that know they don't have modern option.
     
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    Simple. Put them on at the beginning of the season, take them off at the end.:)
     
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    Many large calf people would be happy. Rental market, probably would be too.
     
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    Why not try the cabrio design that Dalbello has done a really good job with? Easy on & easy off, adjustable flex tongue and HP?
     
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    How much higher up is the effective boot pivot from the (shown) rear gate pivot?
     
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    They were looking for simplicity...again to quote Atomic...easy. A cabrio with the three pieces is still fairly complex compared to this.
     
  14. James

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    Well, ok. What's better about this than say Alpina's rear entry?

    I get their target market, I don't get just making a low performance boot and declaring victory. Why not make a platform that can go low or high? Or are they doing it and not saying?
     
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    Go for it Atomic. :crossfingers:
    There is absolutely several great applications for the rear entry boot as mentioned above. Nearly unlimited potential adaptations that would make this a killer product for an old lazy recreational skiers, like me.

    If this thing sells you know a lot of older molds from a number of manufacturers are coming off of the shelf.
     
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    The are offering a 110 that will have an Air Fit bladder.
     
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    Beginners yes. Not sure about the OLD FOLKS market. My ski (and life) partner is 75 YO and he would not give up the precision of a good boot for ease of entry. Maybe when he's 90..ogwink
     
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    Notice that if they do clever things with the liner you may not need it:

     
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    Atomic has a presence in the ski world. Think also about Atomic's new owners and the rising Chinese ski market...this will give them a..uhmmm..foothold into the Chinese beginner ski market.
     
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